(February 11, 2013 at 11:34 pm)Drich Wrote: I never judged anyone as being a Christian or not. (Which is the Red Herring 99% of your whole arguement is based on.)
Except you call us all bigoted for daring to blame their religion in this case. Given this, it's clear that you think their religion is a non-issue, and as you go on, you label their actions as non christian. How, exactly, can this be interpreted any other way?
Quote:I quite specifically said if their actions do not coinside with Christian "Law" then their deeds can not be considered Christian. whether they are saved or not is of no concern to me in this arguement. That is why I very specifically did not judge the state of their salvation.
And who are you to judge their actions? Your christian law includes the burning of witches, that's literally written down in the bible, but you ignore that because you don't like it.
Quote:Why isn't this a "No true scots man fallacy?" BECAUSE THERE ARE ESTABLISHED RULES TO BE AN ACTUAL CHRISTIAN!
Yep. And you've chosen to discard the ones you find inconvenient and created a special subset of those rules just for you, and now you judge everyone else's actions based on those. And no true christian would ever go against those rules, right?
Quote: The No True Scotsmen Fallacy hinges on modification of the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Oh, you mean, like, saying the actions of these people weren't christian and therefore your religion is blameless, despite the fact that your religion calls for witches to be killed exactly like this, based on nothing but your bald assertion that those passages don't count? That kind of a modification?
Quote:Pointing to the Christian Rule book, and then pointing to the fact that these people did not have any CHRISTIAN RULES to support their actions, Makes what they did by Defination, A non Christian Act!!!
Oh, we're back to your opinion now are we? Once again, what makes your special mix of these rules the definitive version over what's written down? The christian rulebook is larger than the rules you choose to follow, so what makes your little edited version the right one?
Seriously, who the hell are you to decide which rules count and which don't?
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