For People Who Think There Was No Historical Jesus

[ThomM]

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How much evidence is there that Hercules existed? Or Osiris? Or Thor? Or Marduk? Etc., etc. No one claims these were "historical" figures but when it comes to fucking jesus we get a pile of holy horseshit thrown up with no more evidence to back it up than there is for any of them.

What to they have to do with the possibility that there might have been an ordinary human male who wandered around Galilee preaching to people? Insisting that there wasn't a Jesus in any shape or form is an optional point of view where atheists are concerned. You say nobody at all existed, Richard Dawkins said he probably existed and I take the view that he might have existed. As I said in another post, I can't see Richard Dawkins saying 'probably' because he didn't want to upset Christians by insisting there wasn't anyone at all.

, as we know it today, is the result of a long series of events. They have done a fairly good job of masking their early history and pretending that the shit they wrote down in the 4th century was the way it was. They got away with that because they could kill anyone who questioned.

This would be where all the myths and legends came from. Myths and legends can get attached to people. Sir Francis Drake definitely existed but he had legends attached to him.

Not that this has anything to do with the topic because people are supposed to be suggesting how Christianity got started by going on the assumption that there wasn't a Jesus.

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Now - lets see - how did xtianity get started without a real "jesus"
That is supposed to mean something - there had to be a jesus because xtianity mentions him.

Analyze that statement -

How did Hinduism get started if there is not a real Shiva?

How did Islam get started without a real Allah?

How did the Greek religion get started without a real Zeus?

Sorry - but the claim that the religion proves the god is something YOU do not agree with - so why should we? According to YOU - most religions were started without real gods - why should we believe that yours was NOT? Especially when it is easy to prove that the god of your religion - as defined by ALL the claims of the religion - cannot actually be true.