Colorado parents of transgender 1st-grader file complaint over restroom ban

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Wow Tara, you have completely missed what I think the most important point is - and I brought it up yet no one has discussed it. This is a matter for the school, and it's their right to make a decision, in this case they cannot make everyone happy, but they still have to make a decision and parents should respect the rules that the School has. In fact - when you send your child to a school, you are agreeing to abide by their rules.

Schools have enough things to worry about without having renegade parents who are unhappy with the school rules that they agreed to when they sent their children there.

Sooo... about that whole segregation thing. Something about schools making a stance to not allow black children to learn alongside white children? Yup, the school has every right to be just as much of a dick as it wants to be

Though, I'm with you to an extent. Were it my child, and she felt badly enough about the bathroom trauma I got to 'enjoy' for most of my life, I'd absolutely pull her out of that school and stick her in another. Or homeschool her, if every school decided to be an ass about a little girl's piss

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@Aractus

So we're not allowed to disagree with the school's decision?

Clearly not, and we're also certainly not allowed to voice such disagreement.

People made an issue of my not standing to say the pledge of allegiance, can't imagine why... what with the separation of church and state and all, and of not making odd pledges that one neither intends to uphold nor keep.

Really, people like to make mountains out of molehills, and they're hookers regardless

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[quote='missluckie26' pid='408568' dateline='1362280966']Not to mention: guys' bathrooms are on a whole different playing field cleanliness wise.

Actually that's totally wrong. I know of buildings which have signs inside the ladies that say "wash your hands before leaving" and which do not have those signs inside the men's.

Girls girls... how the fuck did you get shi-, oh... so you're that obese. Gotcha

And don't be ridiculous... never seen a man wash his hands after pissing in my life (hyperbole, but I'll still forever be haunted by the images of guys finishing up at the urinal and walking right out the door...)

Nonsense. You can disagree with it all you want, but it's still their decision to make.

But they're crazy regardless, right?

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Ummmm... I was saying you guys' bathrooms are disgusting
Follow up question: How do you know what's in the girl's bathrooms?

Aractus follows women into them, obviously

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Do you not find it harmful for a young girl to see a penis? Well, I would rather she did not. I would rather she not see vaginas that do not belong to her, either. However, that would hardly raise the question of genitalia. Children have no reason to be concerned with this. Now, you have yet to assert your views on this. I will go no further until I am sure I am not just wasting my time debating someone who does not disagree, but rather enjoys wasting people's time by making them state every nuance of their argument for no one's benefit. It's rude. So, where do you stand or have nice day? Up to you.

Not remotely. I also don't see it as harmful that she see vaginas. Or that a young lad sees such. Or the dicks of other men. Or tits. Everybody loves tits.

Children have every reason to be as interested in this as anything else they might study... and if they have the very slightest sexual inclination, it might even be expected of them (one man earlier admitted to masturbating by 7, I myself started that at an age I simply don't remember, certainly before that though).

Why would it be harmful for anyone to see a healthy body part? It's not like it's going to psychologically traumatize them from appearance alone (man, it'd have to be uuuuuuugly).

Missluckie, I have heard tell that women's bathrooms are worse. I imagine it is the bloody mess thing.

I've been in both, and I can honestly say that you cisgendered folk (of each sex) are incredibly foul, and equally guilty of being filthy. The men's gets a lovely amount of piss splattered everywhere, coupled with such an absence of washed hands that by first grade I started opening every bathroom door with a large wad of paper towels (or, sans this... the lower outside portion of my shirts, or coatsleeves). I'm SUCH A FAN of how beautifully they can miss the target, and have to-date absolutely no idea how they can manage that.

The women's likes to have a whole shit ton of paper and grime thrown just about everywhere... bonus points if there's bloodstains on the seats. SUPER BONUS ROUND if there's still-liquidated piss on the seat, alongside a few droplets of blood she couldn't be arsed to wipe down, and MY FAVORITE: diarrhea dribbling along the back or side of the seat. And don't you just love it when they don't flush?

By second grade, I discovered the 'cleanest' way to go to the bathroom ever, and I've been using it since: squat (from a sitting position), ass in the air, and piss. The level of aim attainable from this position (regardless if you've penis or vagina) allows one to quietly let their piss this the ceramic instead of the water, in a downward slope that typically works with the bowled design of toilets... so one doesn't have to feel embarrassed or anything when someone else walks into the same bathroom they're in. Human ingenuity~, that's me.