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Poll: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
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Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state?
(April 21, 2013 at 7:08 am)Tonus Wrote:
(April 19, 2013 at 8:15 am)Godschild Wrote: Scripture tells us this is against the will of God, knowing this I would not be able to pray for that, and since you do not believe you most certainly can not. God's laid out a plan from before time and he's not changing things up for your petty and selfish ways.

So it's "petty and selfish" to make a sincere plea to god to reveal himself, because it's against his will? And you don't see how transparent your claim is?

Doesn't it feel frustrating to realize that you have to make up so many excuses for why god won't reveal himself, to the extent of considering it petty and selfish to want it? You've made up a shy, miserable little god who won't show himself, and who resents so much as a request that he stand up for his believers and save the lives of billions. And then you try to convince yourself that he's 'good' and 'loving,' even though he created a "plan from before time" that won't save more than a relative handful of people that he condemned.

First off your subjective assumption as to the number of saved is irrational and unfounded, you need to bring proof of your claim.
I make no excuses for God, don't need to, He's able to take care of Himself and maybe He'll show himself to you. Let me ask you a question do you want God to come to you and save you? This is a simple question that should have a simple answer.
The way you explain things leads me to believe you had Calvinist influences in your life.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Are you for or against the separation of church and state? - by Godschild - April 22, 2013 at 12:36 am

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