On Non-belief

Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!

Current time: May 14, 2024, 10:00 pm

Thread Rating:

1 Vote(s) - 4 Average
1
2
3
4
5

Thread Modes

On Non-belief

FallentoReason Offline

Let evidence & reason guide you

Religious Views: Free Thinking Agnostic

Posts: 2658
Threads: 121
Joined: March 19, 2012
Reputation: 27

RE: On Non-belief

April 13, 2013 at 12:50 am

(April 13, 2013 at 12:06 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(April 12, 2013 at 11:22 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: ...are you saying that believing in x is not a sufficient nor even a necessary condition to salvation? In other words, is it true that someone who is not a Christian can get to heaven?
Yes. Contrary to most evangelical thinking, I believe that many non-Christians go to heaven, given certain qualifiers and conditions, etc. etc. That is also New Church doctrine, so I'm not making my own exceptions.

Right, so what are these "qualifiers and conditions"?

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle

Find

« Next Oldest | Next Newest »

Messages In This Thread

On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 12, 2013 at 7:02 am

RE: On Non-belief - by archangle - April 12, 2013 at 8:07 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 12, 2013 at 11:05 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 12, 2013 at 11:22 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2013 at 12:06 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 13, 2013 at 12:50 am

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 13, 2013 at 1:22 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 13, 2013 at 2:15 am

RE: On Non-belief - by archangle - April 12, 2013 at 11:53 am

Re: RE: On Non-belief - by frz - April 12, 2013 at 8:03 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by archangle - April 12, 2013 at 8:51 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 13, 2013 at 2:59 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 13, 2013 at 3:20 am

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 13, 2013 at 6:42 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 13, 2013 at 10:12 am

RE: On Non-belief - by catfish - April 13, 2013 at 5:15 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 13, 2013 at 4:23 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by catfish - April 13, 2013 at 5:14 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Mister Agenda - April 18, 2013 at 6:29 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by ebg - April 13, 2013 at 5:14 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 13, 2013 at 10:48 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 14, 2013 at 11:27 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 11:44 am

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 14, 2013 at 12:07 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 12:35 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 14, 2013 at 12:58 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 14, 2013 at 10:29 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by pocaracas - April 13, 2013 at 5:38 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 15, 2013 at 12:09 am

RE: On Non-belief - by pocaracas - April 15, 2013 at 4:51 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 15, 2013 at 9:25 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Esquilax - April 15, 2013 at 7:31 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 15, 2013 at 9:31 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 15, 2013 at 9:36 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2013 at 8:25 am

RE: On Non-belief - by archangle - April 15, 2013 at 8:36 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Faith No More - April 15, 2013 at 8:59 am

RE: On Non-belief - by ebg - April 13, 2013 at 6:50 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Minimalist - April 13, 2013 at 11:40 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by ebg - April 14, 2013 at 12:18 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Minimalist - April 24, 2013 at 1:13 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Dragonetti - April 24, 2013 at 1:18 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 1:35 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 14, 2013 at 1:55 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 1:59 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 14, 2013 at 2:05 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 2:11 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by John V - April 14, 2013 at 2:15 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 9:26 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 14, 2013 at 10:05 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 10:21 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 14, 2013 at 10:37 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 10:54 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 14, 2013 at 11:15 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 14, 2013 at 11:16 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 1:10 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 15, 2013 at 4:36 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 12:41 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2013 at 1:21 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by archangle - April 15, 2013 at 4:43 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Esquilax - April 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 4:49 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by pocaracas - April 15, 2013 at 4:57 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by catfish - April 15, 2013 at 6:16 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by pocaracas - April 15, 2013 at 7:04 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 15, 2013 at 11:18 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 16, 2013 at 1:10 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 18, 2013 at 4:08 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Drich - April 15, 2013 at 4:01 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 15, 2013 at 11:31 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 16, 2013 at 8:13 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Drich - April 16, 2013 at 1:10 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 15, 2013 at 6:25 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Jackalope - April 15, 2013 at 7:04 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by catfish - April 15, 2013 at 6:55 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tonus - April 15, 2013 at 7:09 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Whateverist - April 15, 2013 at 7:31 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2013 at 8:37 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 15, 2013 at 9:29 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2013 at 12:09 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 16, 2013 at 12:12 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 16, 2013 at 1:42 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 16, 2013 at 3:01 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 16, 2013 at 3:41 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2013 at 9:57 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 15, 2013 at 11:20 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 15, 2013 at 10:19 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2013 at 3:04 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 16, 2013 at 3:19 am

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2013 at 7:31 am

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 16, 2013 at 8:30 am

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 16, 2013 at 7:18 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 18, 2013 at 2:59 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 18, 2013 at 9:17 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 19, 2013 at 2:51 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 16, 2013 at 10:49 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 16, 2013 at 10:55 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Godschild - April 17, 2013 at 5:40 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 16, 2013 at 1:38 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 16, 2013 at 3:26 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Darkstar - April 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 12:54 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Esquilax - April 17, 2013 at 12:58 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 2:00 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Esquilax - April 18, 2013 at 12:55 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 17, 2013 at 1:28 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by CleanShavenJesus - April 17, 2013 at 5:44 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 9:35 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Brayton.l - April 17, 2013 at 9:44 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 17, 2013 at 11:44 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 18, 2013 at 1:31 am

RE: On Non-belief - by CleanShavenJesus - April 18, 2013 at 5:41 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by CleanShavenJesus - April 17, 2013 at 9:55 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by CleanShavenJesus - April 16, 2013 at 3:50 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 16, 2013 at 6:51 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 18, 2013 at 12:03 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 18, 2013 at 2:43 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 18, 2013 at 3:40 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 18, 2013 at 9:46 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by FallentoReason - April 18, 2013 at 10:08 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by pocaracas - April 19, 2013 at 4:51 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 4:26 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by ThomM - April 19, 2013 at 6:02 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 18, 2013 at 10:38 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 19, 2013 at 2:15 am

RE: On Non-belief - by pocaracas - April 19, 2013 at 5:57 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 7:25 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Simon Moon - April 19, 2013 at 7:41 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 19, 2013 at 8:56 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 20, 2013 at 2:10 am

RE: On Non-belief - by fr0d0 - April 20, 2013 at 3:31 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Esquilax - April 20, 2013 at 2:45 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 19, 2013 at 7:31 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 20, 2013 at 9:22 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by ThomM - April 21, 2013 at 1:25 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 23, 2013 at 11:42 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by Ryantology - April 24, 2013 at 12:58 am

RE: On Non-belief - by Tex - April 24, 2013 at 6:37 pm

RE: On Non-belief - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2013 at 8:27 am

RE: On Non-belief - by The Grand Nudger - April 24, 2013 at 6:39 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread		Author	Replies	Views	Last Post
	Where does the belief that seeds die before they turn into a living plant come from?	FlatAssembler	17	1352	August 3, 2023 at 10:38 am Last Post: The Grand Nudger
	Man claims to hunt non-binaries	Ferrocyanide	10	1240	April 6, 2022 at 8:47 am Last Post: onlinebiker
	Why not dismiss the trinitarian belief outright	R00tKiT	80	7571	August 13, 2021 at 3:51 pm Last Post: Spongebob
	Belief	Catharsis	57	4347	March 24, 2019 at 9:54 am Last Post: Shell B
	[Serious] fact finding mission for non-Christians	tackattack	52	4361	March 7, 2019 at 7:31 pm Last Post: The Grand Nudger
	Is there another motivation for christian belief?	brewer	118	17468	September 23, 2016 at 1:02 pm Last Post: TubbyTubby
	My view of theism - theism analogous to belief in extra terrestrials	joseph_	4	1256	August 30, 2016 at 4:20 am Last Post: Jarrey
	What do non-fundamentalist Christians actually believe?	Fromper	66	24561	June 30, 2016 at 7:08 pm Last Post: vorlon13
	I don't do "lack of belief", bitch.	Foxaèr	35	6056	March 21, 2016 at 9:12 pm Last Post: Panatheist
	What is needed to combat the overwhelming level of belief in God?	SteveII	149	21178	December 14, 2015 at 9:10 am Last Post: Athene

View a Printable Version

Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Login
Username:
Password:	Lost Password?
	Remember me