Women rights in Islam

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If women waited until they were married to have sex would there be a culture of calling women bitches, sluts, whores as is the norm while it's expected for men to have sex with women? That the guy is "cool" if he has sex with a lot of women but if a women does she's a slut. That's what having sex out of marriage does it lead to extreme patriarchal societies.

So, essentially your solution to the problem of gender inequality is that the victims of it need to modulate their behavior to suit the prejudices and preferences of the source of the problem, rather than the troublemakers modulating theirs?

That's like arguing that racism would go away just so long as those darn black people would stop being around white people so much. It's not solving the problem, it's knuckling under. Giving in.

If the woman has any earnings during her marital life, by way of investments of her property or as a result of work, she doesn't have to spend one penny of that income on the household, it is entirely hers.

That's the same here.

The full maintenance and support of a married woman is the entire responsibility of her husband, even though she might be richer than he is. She doesn't have to spend a penny.

One might successfully argue that this expectation is also a symptom of patriarchy.

At the time of divorce, there are certain guarantees during the waiting period and even beyond for a woman's support.

Ditto here, really. Ask yourself why such support structures would have been enacted in the first place.

If the widow or divorcee has children, she's entitled to child support.

Why are you acting like things that are common everywhere are some kind of national step up for you guys?

During the period of engagement, a woman is to be on the receiving side of gifts.

At the time of marriage, it is the duty of the husband, not the bride's family. He is supposed to pay for a marital gift. The Quran called it a gift, and it is exclusively the right of the woman. She doesn't have to spend it on the household, she doesn't have to give it to her father or anyone else.

In fact, this entire thing seems vaguely condescending: "Look at this, the woman gets all these pretty trinkets, that she gets to spend all by hersewf!" As if gender equality can be measured merely by the number of special observances paid to women at certain times.

If the woman happened to own any property prior to marriage, she retains that property after marriage. It remains under her control. Also, in most Muslim countries, the woman keeps her own last name, and her own identity.

Kinda true everywhere.

Seriously, is this all you think gender equality is about?

No that's what I'm saying nor is it what I said. Your brain just can't comprehend it.

Both men and women need to wait until sex for marriage. A men can't have sex without a women and vice versa. The trouble makers are the ones who brand women as sluts and yet expect them to have sex when they decide. The only way that stops is if women make the decision to not be constantly used because men are the ones who are causing the injustice. Rape is mostly done by men and is considered just another crime rather than what is truly is. A disgusting act. Rape and having sex with a lot of bitches is what's cool here.

That's your idea of women's rights, this imaginary choice of oppression. If you can't see past it it's your problem. But you're a brainwashed liberal, like a hamster on a wheel.