(June 29, 2019 at 1:30 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Possibly 16. That's how young these children are.
Dude, Stephen of Cloyes (leader of one of Children's crusades) was 12 years old. And to say they were older because "youngest credited member of the cast was 15" is like saying that "Clockwork Orange" is about late 20s guy living with his parents because Malcolm McDowell was 27 at the time. Especially since most of the "actors" in "Gates of Paradise" were extras who were not credited.
(June 29, 2019 at 1:30 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And if you're still inclined to think it's just some sort of Catholic propaganda whitewashing the Children's Crusades and blaming it all on the gays
And it's not whitewashing of Catholicism? So then according to you they do blame the Catholic Church? Because in reality this was the blame of religious upbringing, so any deviation from it is whitewashing.
Or are you saying the movie blames church? Are you saying that all these these teenagers felt guilty for being gay and having wrong sexual feelings so they joined this religious trip to atone for their sins and that "atonement" is the blame on Catholic church for installing that shame in them? Is this what you claim?
(June 29, 2019 at 1:30 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: bear in mind, Jerzy Andrzejewski (who wrote the novel this film was based upon) was himself gay (or at least bisexual)
I wouldn't talk much about the novel because I didn't read it so I don't know it. Also, it doesn't mean that if the writer was gay ("or at least bisexual") he couldn't write homophobic stuff. I mean take RW Fassbinder who always wrote gay characters as the most despicable beings as being petty, greedy, self centered, and was therefore accused of German LGBT community of homophobia in spite of Fassbinder himself being gay.
I'm just saying what I see in the final product.