RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
July 29, 2013 at 4:54 pm
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2013 at 5:15 pm by Slave.)
Because we are talking about humans. I care about the affairs of humans and human rights, as I consider myself a humanitarian.
We also keep 'harping on' about species classification after having been repeatedly told that an embryo (and all other development stages of human life) are not human.
Fair enough for the first paragraph.
As for your question, I guess I would say murder is wrong if not done in self-defense and even then it should be as a last resort only. I disagree with the death penalty, as I see it is hypocritical to kill murderers for killing i.e. 'an eye for an eye' is bullshit.
Ah, I missed this. I love it when people assert opinions as outright fact. I love it as muich as I love hearing that Jesus is God and we should worship him.
Like I said, personhood is up for debate, as this is a matter of philosophical inquiry and is not rooted in scientific fact.
Your assertion that human rights only pertain to 'people' and not humans is your assertion.
Do not espouse opinion as fact, if you have any respect for intellectual honesty in debates.
We also keep 'harping on' about species classification after having been repeatedly told that an embryo (and all other development stages of human life) are not human.
teaearlgreyhot Wrote:The golden rule is my assumption. Assuming the golden rule, then abortion isn't murder. Many atheists here assume golden rule so I thought it would provide an interesting perspective to those of us who hold it. I don't believe in objective morality. I only hold to the golden rule because every violation of it I can imagine disgusts me.
I must know however, why do you personally object to murdering an adult human? I.e. by what criteria do you conclude that murder is wrong?
Fair enough for the first paragraph.
As for your question, I guess I would say murder is wrong if not done in self-defense and even then it should be as a last resort only. I disagree with the death penalty, as I see it is hypocritical to kill murderers for killing i.e. 'an eye for an eye' is bullshit.
(July 29, 2013 at 3:57 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(July 29, 2013 at 2:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: A zygote + is a human life
A person is a human life at a later stage of development
We don't have rights because we are human.
We have rights because we exist as people.
Personhood, not species classification, defines rights.
Is this point clear yet?
Ah, I missed this. I love it when people assert opinions as outright fact. I love it as muich as I love hearing that Jesus is God and we should worship him.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights Wrote:Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world. . .
Like I said, personhood is up for debate, as this is a matter of philosophical inquiry and is not rooted in scientific fact.
Your assertion that human rights only pertain to 'people' and not humans is your assertion.
Do not espouse opinion as fact, if you have any respect for intellectual honesty in debates.