Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.

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it's not a perception, the universe is physically 4 dim's where cause and effect is a scientific principle where no human has ever witness an effect without a cause.

The cause/effect relationship isn't what's in dispute. We're arguing over the two unjustified fiat assertions you made a page or so back, those being that causes are always greater than effects- which we proved demonstrably false almost immediately, causing you to squirm through word games and outright ignoring arguments to get here- and that the mind is greater than matter.

You haven't bothered to argue for either of those assertions, and worse, you haven't even begun by defining what you mean by "greater," nor why any of us should give a shit about what your definition of greater is within the context of this argument. So far, your case just rests on "because I say so," and Snowy, nobody respects your intellectual prowess enough to care about what you say.

Evidence! Do you have any!

Edited to add: Oh, and that's just trying to get you to take responsibility for your own poor argumentation. I haven't even touched on the fact that your response to Stimbo was just yet another fiat dismissal of his argument. Saying "no it isn't," isn't a fucking point, you imbecile.