RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 6, 2014 at 12:29 pm
(October 6, 2014 at 12:16 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(October 6, 2014 at 12:01 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Surgenator claims the ratio is 34/23.7, or in decimal, 1.4346. I make no claim specifically other than as noted that the width of DNA has been given as multiple values in the literature.
Now, get on with it.
Already distancing yourself I see.
Correct, Surgenator claimed the ratio 34/23.7, which I said that the ratio of those numbers was 1.434 and that 34/23.7 was not a ratio.
And you were wrong on that count. A ratio can be expressed multiple ways, including 34/23.7. The reason nobody responded is because they couldn't believe that you were stupid enough to believe otherwise. And you still haven't responded to the main point. Here, I'll repeat it for you.
(October 6, 2014 at 11:45 am)rasetsu Wrote: Huggy, it's been proposed to you that 23.7 Å is an accurate measure of the width of the most common configuration of DNA in solution, B-DNA. Since the agreed pitch of the DNA helix is 34 Å, this would make the ratio of pitch to width far enough from Phi as to disqualify Phi as a reasonable approximation of its ratio. Wikipedia also notes that the major groove of DNA is 22 Å, and the minor groove is 12 Å. This ratio too does not in a reasonable sense approximate Phi. Thus the two ratios which in your initial figure showed both as being approximately Phi, the conclusion based upon the numbers that have been suggested as accurate is that the ratios given in your initial figure are inaccurate and that Phi is not obviously reflected in the dimensions of DNA.
Do you agree or disagree with any of this data or the conclusions formed based on that data?
Cue Huggy arguing about the meaning of words.....