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Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism
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RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism
(October 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: In my view if can answer no to the question "do you believe in god?" you are an atheist.

It really is that simple.

Belief is the psychological state in which an individual holds a conjecture or premise to be true.

Or as the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy similarly states it, "Contemporary analytic philosophers of mind generally use the term “belief” to refer to the attitude we have, roughly, whenever we take something to be the case or regard it as true."

If an individual does not hold the premise that a god or gods exist to be true, they are an atheist.

I wonder which god's existence Carl Sagan (a personal hero of mine) held to be true? If the answer was none (which is was), he was an atheist.

Quote:I may have written this before.

Yeah, we all have. And yet here we are still dealing with Vinny...Undecided

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 13, 2013 at 3:03 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 13, 2013 at 5:32 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Brian37 - October 18, 2013 at 7:19 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Captain Colostomy - October 13, 2013 at 5:17 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by max-greece - October 13, 2013 at 6:27 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Tonus - October 13, 2013 at 9:28 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by pocaracas - October 13, 2013 at 7:10 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 3:33 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Brakeman - October 16, 2013 at 7:39 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 4:36 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Esquilax - October 16, 2013 at 5:00 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 5:44 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 16, 2013 at 7:46 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 7:58 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 16, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 17, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Simon Moon - October 16, 2013 at 8:37 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by CleanShavenJesus - October 16, 2013 at 8:00 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by CleanShavenJesus - October 16, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Esquilax - October 17, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Gilgamesh - October 13, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by DeistPaladin - October 13, 2013 at 4:42 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 13, 2013 at 7:53 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by DeistPaladin - October 13, 2013 at 8:01 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Gilgamesh - October 13, 2013 at 8:21 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 13, 2013 at 8:34 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by DeistPaladin - October 13, 2013 at 9:03 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 14, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by DeistPaladin - October 15, 2013 at 8:38 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 15, 2013 at 3:38 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by DeistPaladin - October 15, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Esquilax - October 14, 2013 at 9:38 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Brian37 - October 13, 2013 at 4:47 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by *Deidre* - October 13, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 15, 2013 at 5:21 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Mothonis - October 16, 2013 at 12:44 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 16, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 16, 2013 at 5:40 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Mothonis - October 16, 2013 at 5:52 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Esquilax - October 16, 2013 at 7:20 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Zazzy - October 16, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by pocaracas - October 16, 2013 at 6:07 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Anomalocaris - October 16, 2013 at 6:17 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by downbeatplumb - October 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Simon Moon - October 16, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Bob Kelso - October 16, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Angrboda - October 16, 2013 at 11:22 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by pocaracas - October 17, 2013 at 3:51 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Esquilax - October 17, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by pocaracas - October 17, 2013 at 4:28 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Jackalope - October 19, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Brakeman - October 17, 2013 at 7:06 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 17, 2013 at 6:53 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 18, 2013 at 2:46 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by ManMachine - October 19, 2013 at 8:40 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Chas - October 19, 2013 at 11:43 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Simon Moon - October 20, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 27, 2013 at 9:46 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 27, 2013 at 10:57 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - October 29, 2013 at 1:27 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Mothonis - October 29, 2013 at 2:53 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Brakeman - October 29, 2013 at 12:46 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Brakeman - October 29, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by ManMachine - October 29, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Ben Davis - October 29, 2013 at 8:15 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by ManMachine - October 29, 2013 at 1:01 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Ben Davis - October 30, 2013 at 8:36 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Walking Void - October 27, 2013 at 10:33 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Walking Void - October 30, 2013 at 10:04 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Ben Davis - October 30, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Ayen - November 3, 2013 at 7:43 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Ben Davis - November 4, 2013 at 6:15 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by YahwehIsTheWay - November 3, 2013 at 12:23 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Esquilax - November 4, 2013 at 2:11 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Lemonvariable72 - November 4, 2013 at 2:55 am
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - November 5, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: Why Carl Sagan rejected atheism - by Angrboda - November 6, 2013 at 2:17 am

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