My Thoughts On Islam

[rhn2704]

Again, consistency does not prove truth.

This is where Islam proves itself a buggy software program. I've never heard a Muslim apologist offer any proof that doesn't involve what the Quran says (i.e. using the story book to prove the story is true). The arguments I've heard are:

1. The Quran is so beautifully written as to allow only a divine origin.
2. The Quran is faithfully translated over the years to allow no alterations.
3. The Quran has knowledge that could only allow a divine origin.

Please feel free to offer anything that doesn't fall under these three, or elaborations and defenses of these three arguments.

The first is, at best, a subjective opinion. The second fails for reasons I've mentioned. The third would be interesting if it were true but that's a more lengthy discussion. The larger point for now is nothing outside the Quran can be offered to prove Islam true.

It all boils down to seven words: "Some guy claimed God spoke to him".

I really appreciate that you have some open mind unlike some people on this forum who just blindly say something without any thoughts.

The verse which you said "I and father are one" Is in no way close to prove that Jesus christ himself said Verily I am God or worship me.

I and Father are one.My question is at what ??

I can also say You and I are one.In the sense that we both speak English.

In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states: "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."

These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, " My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...," in John 10:29 completely negates this claim, otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus.

Now as for what Muslim believe that Quran is a verbatim word of God.

Now you will not believe me just because I said so.So what you have to see is whether Quran the message what it offers to and the way the message is delivered stands the test of time or not.

Ok Consider this,Lets just say today we just remove all the scriptures which exists today in the world.All the holy scriptures which are present whether from internet,the books,media etc.

Just think which will be the only scripture which can be brought back how it was word by word as it was revealed at their respective times?

Its The Holy Quran because millions of muslims have memorised it and can re-write it with millions of people to verify it.

Quran roughly means "Which is recited a lot".Muslims from all over the world recite it in their five daily prayers round the clock since 1400 years and will go on till the end of times.

Today there are about 1.5 billion Muslims.But When the Quran was revealed 1400 years ago.Just Imagine a person who you knew is a good man and is your neighbor, On one fine day knocks at your door and tells you that He is a messenger of God and his job is only to deliver the message of Islam.

How would you feel that time after listening to him???

So Even that time there was an open challenge from the Quran to the pagans who were listening to the Prophet when he was reciting the verses to them at that time.

Quran 2:23 "And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides God, if your (doubts) are true."

That time was the Age of literature and Poetry.The Arab pagans embraced Islam because of the strong poetry and stylistic miracle of the Noble Quran.

Prophet Muhammad did not convert sticks to snakes, or split the sea in half, or raise the dead, or cure the blind, or perform any of the Miracles that God's Messengers did in the past (Peace be upon all of them)

All of the miracles that the Messengers before Prophet Muhammad had performed died when they died.

The miracle that Prophet Muhammad brought to earth lived after his death, and will live until the Day of Judgment.

Many can try to produce chapters that have similar literature that of the Noble Quran, as some already done so, but non of these man-made books can convert a single sincere person.This is the Miracle of the Noble Quran, and the Miracle of Islam.

Today is the Age of Science.So just tell me how is it possible that there are many established scientific facts in the Quran which were only discovered some decades back and Quran has already mentioned it 1400 years ago ???

There has to be something about the Quran which you or I can't competely neglect.