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"Jewish state"..........
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RE: "Jewish state"..........
(August 10, 2014 at 1:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 10, 2014 at 1:18 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The words "secular Catholics" do not refer to an ethnicity of a person, but the word "Jew" can.

WAY TO MISS THE POINT AGAIN

"Ethnic" is the dodge to avoid religion. The Talmud is a religious text, just like the bible and Koran.

Either way you slice it "ethic" or "religious" it is STILL A SOCIAL PECKING ORDER.

"Ethnic" is what Germany thought too. If Germans are not special because of their "race" what makes any of the 7 billion of us living on this planet think by proxy of labels one group is more special than another?

You are playing word games that still end up with HUMANS bad logic that sets up social pecking orders based on labels.

Pointing that out does not translate to "go away" or " no religion" or "outlaw labels".

I am saying it is a bad idea IN OUR SPECIES HISTORY to set up labels as being more important than our common existence.

Civil governments cannot employ language that winks at one group while treating another as a mere guest.

Please explain to me what is wrong with stopping at "religious freedom" and leaving it at that? If there are no words name dropping groups then there is nothing to argue about.

But the world is not only divided by religion but also by countries and ethnicities, it's an unavoidable reality, and we do label people as Americans, French, German, Scottish, etc. And "Jewish" is one of those "ethnic" words. You can disagree all you want but it won't change that fact. When people say, "Israel is a Jewish state" it's meant in the ethnic sense.
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"Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 9:22 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Mudhammam - August 10, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Dystopia - August 10, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Diablo - August 10, 2014 at 9:36 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Dystopia - August 10, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Mudhammam - August 10, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Dystopia - August 10, 2014 at 10:48 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Diablo - August 10, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 1:36 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Diablo - August 10, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by professor - August 10, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 10, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 13, 2014 at 5:20 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by davidMC1982 - August 10, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 10, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 13, 2014 at 1:45 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 13, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by little_monkey - August 13, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Brian37 - August 13, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: "Jewish state".......... - by Minimalist - August 13, 2014 at 3:36 pm

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