RE: Strong Atheism starts from faith
January 21, 2010 at 8:13 pm
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2010 at 8:46 pm by FaithvsFact.)
(January 21, 2010 at 11:25 am)Tiberius Wrote:i am a senior mechanical engineer of 10 years standing graduating with first class honours / magna cum laude degree in mech eng and a bachelor in commerce from one of the best unis in my country which has a won nobel prize for its medical research. my clients are global corporations who are leaders in their industries but for obvious reasons i will not name drop them. when the previous poster makes out that they know how to use the term null hypothesis, when in reality they don't, they need to be corrected which adrian is doing here and which i did.(January 21, 2010 at 10:53 am)leo-rcc Wrote: No, I only edited my post because stfu was a bit too harsh in this case. As for using "null hypothesis" as opposed to Adrian's explanation of "Default hypothesis". It is my wording, I would use null hypothesis every single time something like this would come up. And I am not about to change that.For the sake of clarification (which I believe was the only thing FaithvsFact was after), by "null hypothesis" you do mean "default position" right?
I can understand where FaithvsFact is coming from, as I never use the phrase "null hypothesis" for anything other than statistics. If he is an engineer as he claims, it is not surprising he was confused by your wording.
It isn't so much semantics, but when someone has used a word in a context where it is not usually placed, clarification is needed.
(January 21, 2010 at 11:18 am)chatpilot Wrote: To answer your questions to me FvF I do consider myself to be a strong atheist. I do not have faith in my contention that god exist, I am convinced that god does not exist due to the lack of evidence. I do not think it is my job to prove a negative, but I base myself on the evidence we have available for the existence of god. I personally don't see god anywhere in our natural world of order and chaos combined. Where do most people claim to see god? In visions, dreams, and revelations whether that be some experience of religious ecstasy or read it in a book claiming divine inspiration is irrelevant. None of these methods of detecting god are valid since they are completely subjective to the person claiming the experience, to the rest of us they are meaningless and require our faith in the word of the revealer.
Conveniently, as in all mythological creatures god exist outside of the natural realm according to his believers. Outside the reach of science and untestable in any way.
Thanks for that and since you say that "I am convinced that god does not exist" I will agree with you that you are a genuine strong atheist and hence the subject of my OP.
Could you please answer the two questions (if you haven't already - apologies if you have) I posed in the OP.
You will find later that I will not be asking you to prove a negative - that is not the scope of my post (refer OP).