(November 17, 2014 at 9:45 am)Drich Wrote:(November 16, 2014 at 2:32 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Punishment can take on two forms. There is the kind that a parent might administer to a naughty child in order to teach them right from wrong and help them grow into a better person, and the kind that a parent might administer to a naughty child mostly because they are stupid and brutal people who can only soothe their own crippling emotional flaws by physically beating people who are too small to fight back.
The Abrahamic religions seem to take the view that there is no such thing as an unjust punishment, because the person who makes the rules cannot, by definition, break any rules. That is why I am curious to get the opinion of a follower or two, what is the justice in eternal punishment? When a person is dead and goes into the afterlife, what is the material (or immaterial) gain of subjecting that person to an eternity of misery and horror in revenge for whatever acts that allegedly justify it?
If there is no good here, and it is just revenge for the sake of revenge, if God is inflicting pain and anguish just because he got pissed off, how can this possibly be justified as anything other than the most petty and brutal sort of revenge?
I think your looking at the Hell thing through the lenses of Catholisim.
Utlimatly if you strip Hell down to it's core principle, it is eternal seperation from God. Because where in creation can one go to escape an omnipresent God? The Absents of God is the defination of Hell.
So why does anyone need be seperated from God? Because it is clear just from this website not everyone want to be with Him. So again if you spend a life time trying to seperat yourself from God how can a Just God force you to spend an eternity with Him?
You can`t choose to be with an imaginary friend, you cannot become schizophrenic, either you are or you`re not.
If it`s true that our species is alone in the universe then I`d have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little.