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Obesity: five facts
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RE: Obesity: five facts
(November 23, 2014 at 8:07 pm)Aractus Wrote:

Thanks for the corrections and increased accuracies! Smile

I forgot to mention fruits.
Fruits, so people are told, contain fructose.... which makes fructose seem a "good" kind of sugar.... so good, in fact, that last week I saw it for sale on the "healthy" aisle of the supermarket: 1kg of fructose... can't recall the price... white sugary granules... looks like normal sugar, to me.
Anyway, we've evolved to appreciate the sweetness from prehistoric sources of sugar: fruits and honey. Honey wasn't that easy to get to, because of... you know... bees and their stings. Fruits were just there for the taking... each in their season! And fruits have something else: fibre.
That fibre doesn't get assimilated, but rather promotes intestinal flow, thus keeping some nutrients from being absorbed.... fructose too!
Of course, you can complement your sugar intake with fibres from some other source, typically, doctors will tell you to eat your veggies which are the main source of such fibres in our present day diet.
But kids don't seem to like them... and then they grow up still not liking them... and then they don't teach their kids to eat their veggies, because they themselves never liked them.... and (of course, not only because of this!) you arrive at today's UK and US levels of obesity... and growing!
In the meantime, Japan eats a lot of fish and a lot of veggies... just look at sushi!
But kids do like sugar. oh yum yum yum!
Go figure... it's the parents' fault!


Now, for something completely different.
I was a bit confused by the statement you quoted "when your pancreas can't produce enough insulin it produces diabetes". I thought diabetes was a condition, not a hormone or substance.
And, if I understood it correctly from your explanation, type 1 diabetes happens because the pancreas shuts down and stops producing insulin, while type 2 is when the body becomes insulin resistant and, no mater how much of it the pancreas produces, it will never work as intended.... did I get this right?


(November 24, 2014 at 1:30 am)Aractus Wrote: It isn't an excuse, it's science. Put simply: when obese people lose weight they feel terrible and then they regain the weight and now we know why, and it isn't their fault. Your victim-blaming approach is wrong.
Well, technically, it's their bodies, and they ARE their bodies, so it's their fault. You may say it's not their conscious fault, though.

Also, if they didn't buy so much food to have around the house, they would probably not indulge in their constant hunger.... if food wasn't so abundant... specially junk food, the kind that you can take everywhere and just keep snacking and snacking and snacking.
One tiny example of how the industry encourages you to snack like this:
- When I went to the UK, and I wanted to get a pack of crisps at Tesco, all I could get was a pack of 6 smaller packs, 6 individual doses, let's say. And what do people do with these packs? They get home, open on the the small packs and eat them... their small, they're enough for a meal, but not enough for snacking, so they get another one... and another one... and another one... Almost without noticing it, you've eaten 4 or 5 small packs, about 30g each... and it feels like it wasn't that much! Just 4 tiny packs! full intake: 30x4 = 120g.
In Portugal, you get 200g packs, some are 150g, but are just as large (that's a different consumerism problem). You open your 200g pack and you know that's way more than one dose. That's enough for a family of 6's meal. Still, you open it for snacking... and just go on taking crisps from it.... at some point, you notice you're half way through... "damn, I ate too much"... close the pack and store it. Full intake = 100g.
Still.... The World Health Organisation has this week warned that child obesity is fast becoming the norm in Europe, with Portugal one of the continent’s worst performers. (this is the parents' fault!... and it starts)

Since I'm going on about servings, it's also good policy to serve your plate in the kitchen and only put the plates on the table, not the pan or wherever you cook. That way, you eat one dose, one plate, and that's it... it's a hassle to refill the plate so you only really do it if you're really hungry... if it's just gluttony, you'll refrain.
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Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by LostLocke - November 21, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by professor - November 21, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 10:45 am
Re: RE: Obesity: five facts - by KUSA - November 21, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 22, 2014 at 10:25 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 22, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Drich - November 21, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 21, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Drich - November 21, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 21, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:48 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 11:48 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by KichigaiNeko - November 21, 2014 at 6:34 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by JuliaL - November 22, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2014 at 8:35 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 1:07 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 23, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 3:02 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by fr0d0 - November 28, 2014 at 4:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 28, 2014 at 4:16 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 1:56 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 23, 2014 at 2:40 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by pocaracas - November 23, 2014 at 8:48 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by pocaracas - November 24, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 11:45 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 23, 2014 at 11:24 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 23, 2014 at 11:32 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by FifthElement - November 24, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 12:49 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 12:53 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 1:30 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 1:48 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 2:19 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 2:38 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 3:08 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 5:06 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 6:11 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 11:25 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 24, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 1:54 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 2:24 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 4:14 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Mequa - November 24, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Jackalope - November 24, 2014 at 11:58 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Jackalope - November 25, 2014 at 12:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 12:20 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Jackalope - November 25, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 9:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 25, 2014 at 11:29 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 26, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 1:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 3:23 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 3:34 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 1:39 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 1:53 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 2:23 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 27, 2014 at 2:36 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Lemonvariable72 - November 27, 2014 at 2:43 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 27, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by pocaracas - November 27, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 28, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 28, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 29, 2014 at 1:34 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 29, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 29, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by psychoslice - November 29, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by fr0d0 - November 30, 2014 at 4:21 am

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