Yeah, sure. That is a very frustrating cop out to any argument whatsoever.
The thing is, I feel the case for God possibly being a liar is indisputable. To any argument that could be made for God always telling the truth, or even being incapable of lying, the response is, "well that's what a lying God would want you to think". The only way out of that cycle is to say that you can tell that God isn't lying. But to hold such a view, you must consider yourself at least as sophisticated as God. Which is kind of blashpemous I would imagine. Or that God has some massive "tell" where he blinks frantically if he tries to tell a lie. How crap do you think he is?
Plus, as I pointed out, he did lie by his own admission. So there's no getting around that at all, unless you say the bible isn't accurate...
"Just have to have faith" = "This is what I want to believe and I will continue to do so regardless of any evidence presented"
The sad mindset of someone who has abandoned all reason and is willing to risk spending their whole life being wrong about everything. Believing exactly the same things that were forced on them as a little child.
The thing is, I feel the case for God possibly being a liar is indisputable. To any argument that could be made for God always telling the truth, or even being incapable of lying, the response is, "well that's what a lying God would want you to think". The only way out of that cycle is to say that you can tell that God isn't lying. But to hold such a view, you must consider yourself at least as sophisticated as God. Which is kind of blashpemous I would imagine. Or that God has some massive "tell" where he blinks frantically if he tries to tell a lie. How crap do you think he is?
Plus, as I pointed out, he did lie by his own admission. So there's no getting around that at all, unless you say the bible isn't accurate...
"Just have to have faith" = "This is what I want to believe and I will continue to do so regardless of any evidence presented"
The sad mindset of someone who has abandoned all reason and is willing to risk spending their whole life being wrong about everything. Believing exactly the same things that were forced on them as a little child.
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