(April 7, 2015 at 11:54 am)Cato Wrote:(April 7, 2015 at 2:22 am)Heywood Wrote: I am arguing that people have the right to self determination and that right should never be curtailed by the state except in very extreme circumstances.
Do the laws forbidding discrimination based on skin color qualify as an 'extreme circumstance'? If so, what criteria are you using to qualify skin color, but not sexual orientation?
The necessity for anti-discrimination laws forbidding discrimination based on color of skin was a result of government interference. Government created the problem by curtailing the individual freedom of people of color....but that is the topic of another thread.
As to criteria? I have already answered that question several times. If the market would not serve a particular class of people then perhaps we need to compel it by law to serve that class of people. I don't believe that is the case with gays. I don't believe gays would find it difficult to find a baker willing to bake them a cake or a photographer willing the photograph their wedding. Sure there will be the occasional photographer or baker who refuses to serve them, but the market as a whole will. Further i believe, as Mr Agenda claimed, that the market will economically punish those participants who discriminate against gays.
The reason people like you want these discrimination laws, is not to correct some massive societal injustice. You simply want to force people to behave in a way that you want them to behave. You need a very good reason, in my opinion, before you start curtailing individual freedom. Your butthurt isn't sufficient.