RE: Why are Atheists afraid to insult Islam and Jews?
April 21, 2015 at 9:54 pm
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2015 at 10:19 pm by Brian37.)
"Bigot" now we've gone from "insult" to "bigot".
Never said atheists are special or get a pass either. Don't accuse me of being "dogmatic" because of my bluntness. Atheists are perfectly capable of being dogmatic which is why when I run into those who want to write their own list of moral codes I warn them not to PRECISELY because I don't want to see that word go from a mere position to a religion itself. You think I don't go after atheists too?
Good, then if I can, what is your problem? "Freethinker" and words like "humanist" are far too often, not always, but words people use because they don't like the stigma of the word "atheist".
Not about being closed minded, that is another code argument people use shut down a conversation.
Closed minded would be what the Church did to Galileo. Bigoted would be still insisting blacks use separate schools and bathrooms. Bigoted is what causes a huge uptick in hate groups upon Obama's first election. Bigoted is what Islam does when you say boo to them.
If you don't like my bluntness that is fine, not your thing. Being open minded does not mean humans have to cling to old books or give bad ideas that lead humans to hurt other humans a pass.
Former Muslims
https://www.facebook.com/exmna
Black atheists
https://www.facebook.com/BlackAtheists
Iranian atheists and agnostics
https://www.facebook.com/IAAMT
Syrian atheists
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Syrian-At...10?fref=ts
Hispanic atheists
https://www.facebook.com/HispanicAtheist...ca?fref=ts
India atheists,
https://www.facebook.com/groups/532498580118390/
https://www.facebook.com/IndianAtheists?fref=ts
Thats just a few, atheists are worldwide. And there are many more groups on other social media and tons more on facebook. And every single atheists has family and friends and co workers who are still in religion.
Do not imply that my bluntness is bigotry and don't imply or accuse me of being closed minded.
Bucking social norms is why blacks are no longer slaves, and why women can vote, and even now why many states allow for gay marriage. Now wanna bet when those oppressive laws existed where the source for their morality was coming from to do those oppressive things? What do you think the source of morality was for the 9/11 hijackers was?
"Destroy" is when you use weapons and murder. No one should be out to physically force anyone to stop believing. No one should be out to physically destroy past history either.
But that does not mean we as a species need to be clinging to the past. If our species never questioned social norms our species never would left the caves.
Now again the facts are far too many humans put religion as the thing they are willing to die for as their top priority, their morality is coming from old books. Those people are in government and have weapons. So please don't presume blasphemy or cussing is the same as bigotry.
Never said atheists are special or get a pass either. Don't accuse me of being "dogmatic" because of my bluntness. Atheists are perfectly capable of being dogmatic which is why when I run into those who want to write their own list of moral codes I warn them not to PRECISELY because I don't want to see that word go from a mere position to a religion itself. You think I don't go after atheists too?
Quote:Don't get me wrong - You can criticize religion everyday all you want, but if you want to be freethinker try to avoid narrow minded perspectives and actually search for the truth
Good, then if I can, what is your problem? "Freethinker" and words like "humanist" are far too often, not always, but words people use because they don't like the stigma of the word "atheist".
Not about being closed minded, that is another code argument people use shut down a conversation.
Closed minded would be what the Church did to Galileo. Bigoted would be still insisting blacks use separate schools and bathrooms. Bigoted is what causes a huge uptick in hate groups upon Obama's first election. Bigoted is what Islam does when you say boo to them.
If you don't like my bluntness that is fine, not your thing. Being open minded does not mean humans have to cling to old books or give bad ideas that lead humans to hurt other humans a pass.
Former Muslims
https://www.facebook.com/exmna
Black atheists
https://www.facebook.com/BlackAtheists
Iranian atheists and agnostics
https://www.facebook.com/IAAMT
Syrian atheists
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Syrian-At...10?fref=ts
Hispanic atheists
https://www.facebook.com/HispanicAtheist...ca?fref=ts
India atheists,
https://www.facebook.com/groups/532498580118390/
https://www.facebook.com/IndianAtheists?fref=ts
Thats just a few, atheists are worldwide. And there are many more groups on other social media and tons more on facebook. And every single atheists has family and friends and co workers who are still in religion.
Do not imply that my bluntness is bigotry and don't imply or accuse me of being closed minded.
Quote:The vision that destroying religion will create a better world is a narrow minded
Bucking social norms is why blacks are no longer slaves, and why women can vote, and even now why many states allow for gay marriage. Now wanna bet when those oppressive laws existed where the source for their morality was coming from to do those oppressive things? What do you think the source of morality was for the 9/11 hijackers was?
"Destroy" is when you use weapons and murder. No one should be out to physically force anyone to stop believing. No one should be out to physically destroy past history either.
But that does not mean we as a species need to be clinging to the past. If our species never questioned social norms our species never would left the caves.
Now again the facts are far too many humans put religion as the thing they are willing to die for as their top priority, their morality is coming from old books. Those people are in government and have weapons. So please don't presume blasphemy or cussing is the same as bigotry.
