(July 21, 2016 at 3:52 am)Imaginaryfriendless Wrote: I believe Liberals are self deluded. They want a world of unicorns and rainbows, where peace and love prevail and cats and dogs live in harmony and nobody eats meat. I have a few problems with that.
One, it sounds incredibly boring. I would go stir crazy in a week. We are apex predators, regardless what you think, and we are not built to sit around and stagnate. We must have challenges.
Two, and here is the big one- that sort of system will, literally, only work if EVERYONE is on board. One violent man takes the entire system down, because nobody in the society is equipped to deal with him.
You've got a very strange view of liberals and not one born out of reality but a common stereotype fed to you by a certain segment of the media. You are displaying binary thinking here and are bordering on a strawman argument. Also you are tarring a whole range of opinions into one homogeneous lump. Liberals as a whole don't believe a utopia of unicorns, rainbows and world peace is possible, but why should that stop people from trying to improve society as a whole? It is only ever going to be a process and we can decide which direction that process should take. We all benefit from a fairer society and we have all benefitted from the progress made so far. As more people are treated fairly and with respect then they are more likely to treat others in the same way. Animal welfare for example has improved alongside the improvement in quality of life for humans. People have the chance to innovate, to develop businesses and to specialise if society provides a safety net for them and provides equal rights.
And of course there are always going to be people trying to exploit this, or sociopaths who want to ruin everything, but it makes more sense to find out the most effective way as a society to cope with this rather than to pander to our basest emotions for seeking revenge and retribution.
What has being an apex predator got to do with sitting around and stagnating? The very fact that we have successes with the scientific method and the arts is evidence that as a species we do more than just eat, breed and compete with one another. It is possible, and indeed preferable to compete with yourself, to improve yourself rather than to stamp down on others.
