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Am I Going To Hell?
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RE: Am I Going To Hell?
(August 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm)ktrap Wrote:
Quote:Pandæmonium

And what about the 'I don't know' conclusion holds less validity and intellectual honesty to the presumption of knowledge without evidence to you?

Why is saying 'I don't know' ruled out when someone rejects a claim (yours) about something that definitely happens following death but 'ergo nothing' is immediately viewed as the default?

I don't believe in any deity. Am I thus doomed to believe that 'nothing' happens as a result? Is my actual answer of "I don't know" ruled out?

Also, Redbeard didn't actually say 'nothing happens', as evidenced by the crucial 'what if' at the beginning of the quote.

A retraction of your claim that Shuffle believes nothing happens would also be welcome as there is no evidential basis for holding the idea that that position is his.

 I have no issue to the "I don't know" answer.  However, the reasoning applied by atheist to say God does not exist due to lack of evidence should also be applied to the afterlife.

Scenario A
1) God does not exist due to lack of evidence
2) Nothing happens after I die due to lack of evidence

Scenario B
1) I don't know if God exists
2) I don't know what happens after I die

Scenario C
1) God does not exist due to lack of evidence
2) I don't know what happens after I die

 Scenario A & B is consistent,  Scenario C is not consistent.  That is all I am saying.  If in your own mind Scenario C is acceptable then fine with me, but I would not consider that consistent reasoning from an Atheist.

What is an atheist?
Nolite te bastardes carborundorum.
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Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 1, 2015 at 2:58 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 1, 2015 at 3:20 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 1, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 1, 2015 at 10:46 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by LastPoet - August 1, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 1, 2015 at 1:24 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 1, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 1, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 1, 2015 at 6:16 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 2, 2015 at 5:29 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Ravenshire - August 1, 2015 at 7:29 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Pyrrho - August 1, 2015 at 7:54 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 2, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2015 at 7:14 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 2, 2015 at 2:53 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Mudhammam - August 10, 2015 at 8:45 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 9, 2015 at 7:25 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by LostLocke - August 1, 2015 at 11:12 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by vorlon13 - August 1, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Minimalist - August 1, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 1, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 1, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Aoi Magi - August 1, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Aoi Magi - August 1, 2015 at 4:31 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 4:47 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 1, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 1, 2015 at 6:25 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 2, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 2, 2015 at 5:35 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 1, 2015 at 7:51 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 1, 2015 at 5:24 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 11:03 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 11:06 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Jenny A - August 1, 2015 at 6:30 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Spooky - August 1, 2015 at 6:35 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Spooky - August 1, 2015 at 6:36 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 1, 2015 at 7:15 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 10:52 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 11:14 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2015 at 7:22 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by drfuzzy - August 3, 2015 at 2:10 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 1, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 8:21 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 1, 2015 at 8:32 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 8:33 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Homeless Nutter - August 1, 2015 at 9:50 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by IATIA - August 1, 2015 at 9:18 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 9:31 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 2, 2015 at 12:45 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 2, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 1, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by vorlon13 - August 1, 2015 at 11:19 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by TheRealJoeFish - August 2, 2015 at 12:08 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by vorlon13 - August 2, 2015 at 8:38 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Jackalope - August 2, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 2, 2015 at 12:44 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 2, 2015 at 2:53 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Foxaèr - August 2, 2015 at 12:47 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 2, 2015 at 12:50 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Foxaèr - August 2, 2015 at 12:51 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Rahul - August 2, 2015 at 12:56 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 2, 2015 at 1:07 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 2, 2015 at 1:09 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Brian37 - August 2, 2015 at 6:01 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by CapnAwesome - August 2, 2015 at 7:40 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 2, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 2, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by TheRealJoeFish - August 2, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 3, 2015 at 12:16 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 3, 2015 at 3:17 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Godschild - August 9, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Ravenshire - August 9, 2015 at 7:27 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Brakeman - August 2, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 1:27 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Foxaèr - August 3, 2015 at 1:34 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nope - August 3, 2015 at 9:08 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - August 3, 2015 at 12:11 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Neo-Scholastic - August 3, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Homeless Nutter - August 3, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 3, 2015 at 10:47 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 10:37 am
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RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 10:44 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by robvalue - August 3, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 11:43 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 12:04 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by rexbeccarox - August 3, 2015 at 12:44 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 3, 2015 at 5:08 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Kingpin - August 3, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 4, 2015 at 1:56 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Pyrrho - August 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Pyrrho - August 3, 2015 at 1:44 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 2:19 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nope - August 3, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 2:58 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 4, 2015 at 1:59 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 2:37 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 4:03 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 5:10 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 3, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by ktrap - August 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 3, 2015 at 4:00 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by robvalue - August 3, 2015 at 2:30 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2015 at 3:31 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Pyrrho - August 3, 2015 at 4:01 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Kingpin - August 3, 2015 at 3:45 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2015 at 7:28 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 3, 2015 at 10:02 pm
Am I Going To Hell? - by Kingpin - August 3, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 4, 2015 at 1:56 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Kingpin - August 4, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 8, 2015 at 6:03 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 8, 2015 at 6:11 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 8, 2015 at 6:27 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Homeless Nutter - August 8, 2015 at 8:45 pm
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RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Pyrrho - August 8, 2015 at 9:35 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 8, 2015 at 9:41 pm
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RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 8, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 8, 2015 at 7:45 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 8, 2015 at 8:39 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 8, 2015 at 9:00 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 8, 2015 at 9:06 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 8, 2015 at 9:45 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 8, 2015 at 10:21 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 9, 2015 at 12:37 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 12:48 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 9, 2015 at 2:26 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 11:29 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Brakeman - August 10, 2015 at 7:56 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Brakeman - August 9, 2015 at 3:36 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Brakeman - August 9, 2015 at 9:34 pm
Am I Going To Hell? - by TubbyTubby - August 9, 2015 at 4:12 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 9, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 9, 2015 at 5:20 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 5:34 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 9, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 9, 2015 at 7:52 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Simon Moon - August 9, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 9, 2015 at 11:29 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Catholic_Lady - August 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 9, 2015 at 9:02 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Brakeman - August 10, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 10, 2015 at 10:40 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 10, 2015 at 10:51 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 11, 2015 at 6:45 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 11, 2015 at 12:55 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 11, 2015 at 9:42 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Redbeard The Pink - August 11, 2015 at 10:31 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 11, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Redbeard The Pink - August 11, 2015 at 4:06 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 12, 2015 at 4:23 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 12, 2015 at 4:27 pm
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RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 13, 2015 at 9:48 am
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RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 14, 2015 at 8:50 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 14, 2015 at 5:40 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 11, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 12, 2015 at 11:00 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - August 12, 2015 at 11:35 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 12, 2015 at 4:36 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 14, 2015 at 9:24 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by IATIA - August 14, 2015 at 7:38 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Redbeard The Pink - August 18, 2015 at 9:46 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 18, 2015 at 6:56 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 11, 2015 at 2:49 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 11, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - August 11, 2015 at 6:51 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 12, 2015 at 3:09 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Iroscato - August 12, 2015 at 4:27 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Drich - August 12, 2015 at 4:39 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Mental Outlaw - August 18, 2015 at 3:18 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 11:25 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 25, 2015 at 8:05 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Shuffle - August 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Longhorn - August 25, 2015 at 11:27 am
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2015 at 8:44 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 25, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Divinity - August 25, 2015 at 8:57 pm
RE: Am I Going To Hell? - by Whateverist - August 25, 2015 at 9:01 pm

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