(August 10, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Pandæmonium Wrote:(August 10, 2015 at 4:43 pm)Exian Wrote: You know what I just realized, and this is silly, but I've been an atheist for so long that I completely forgot about the idea of the soul, and the role that plays on what you might consider sacred when it comes to life and reproduction. I see life as an organism that is able to reproduce/replicate, and I see no difference in a life created by sexual intercourse and a life created with IVF. To help you understand, I see human reproduction how you might see animal reproduction. There's no discernible difference in the material world.
I wonder now, if you see a person born by IVF as soulless, and is that the missing ingredient I mentioned earlier? (Here's an extra funny bit- if you do consider people born through IVF as soulless, I would somehow find that kind of insulting, even though I consider everybody soulless hahaha)
It's because of the insinuation and de-humanization of people. Thats all these religions ultimately seek to do, to strip people of their humanity and accuse them of being less than worthy. What was it Hitch said, born sick and commanded to be well?
Similar to when they say people will go to hell. The hell bit is of course nonsense, but it's the almost gleeful way they stroke their ego at the misfortune of others and their belief in being right at all costs, even if that misfortune is entirely make believe. It gives them a justification to be cruel and believe in cruel things.
Wow, I hope you're not applying this to me.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
