RE: Bible way to Heaven
October 11, 2015 at 3:11 am
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2015 at 3:13 am by Redbeard The Pink.)
I pretty much just skimmed the OP because from what I could tell it's basically Sunday Morning Drivel, but something he said in there reminded me of something that recently occurred to me.
Ok, so Jehovah is said to be the ultimate source of all goodness and morality (especially morality) in the Universe, right? He's, like, the most moral it's possible to be, right?
The test of salvation, however, is apparently not one of morality, but one of belief. Many Christians and sects of Christianity hold to the idea that even very good people who don't believe in Gaud and accept Jesus will wind up in Hell, and that even truly evil people who convert on their death beds and do no good works will wind up in Heaven. If that's true, it essentially means that Gaud completely ignores how moral one's behavior is and instead only really looks at what you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth.
Now, that does beg the question...why in the FUCK would the penultimate moral force of the Universe base salvation on a position of belief rather than the morality of one's behavior?
"Oh, because human morality is so flawed that it will never measure up, so he has to base our salvation on something else for us to even have a chance."
So you're telling me that the ultimate source of all morality, the Universe's most moral being, is able to ignore and forgive gross immorality because of an utterly arbitrary standard that has literally nothing to do with morality, and that he is completely unwilling to forgive even the smallest infraction unless that utterly arbitrary standard is met, and that this is somehow still a moral being? A moral being who sends otherwise bad people to Heaven and otherwise good people to Hell, all over a matter of whether they can believe something on bad evidence and not whether they can be moral people? How does that even begin to make sense?
Ok, so Jehovah is said to be the ultimate source of all goodness and morality (especially morality) in the Universe, right? He's, like, the most moral it's possible to be, right?
The test of salvation, however, is apparently not one of morality, but one of belief. Many Christians and sects of Christianity hold to the idea that even very good people who don't believe in Gaud and accept Jesus will wind up in Hell, and that even truly evil people who convert on their death beds and do no good works will wind up in Heaven. If that's true, it essentially means that Gaud completely ignores how moral one's behavior is and instead only really looks at what you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth.
Now, that does beg the question...why in the FUCK would the penultimate moral force of the Universe base salvation on a position of belief rather than the morality of one's behavior?
"Oh, because human morality is so flawed that it will never measure up, so he has to base our salvation on something else for us to even have a chance."
So you're telling me that the ultimate source of all morality, the Universe's most moral being, is able to ignore and forgive gross immorality because of an utterly arbitrary standard that has literally nothing to do with morality, and that he is completely unwilling to forgive even the smallest infraction unless that utterly arbitrary standard is met, and that this is somehow still a moral being? A moral being who sends otherwise bad people to Heaven and otherwise good people to Hell, all over a matter of whether they can believe something on bad evidence and not whether they can be moral people? How does that even begin to make sense?
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com