Objectifying women

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I don't know the statistics I just know that people get aroused by visual stimulus, and you can't rape without being aroused.

No matter how much visual stimulus is needed along with the stimulus of the violence, not every man is turned on by provocative clothing. I've never heard of rapists having different fashion tastes than normal men. Many men find sleazy clothing to be distasteful and cheap. Those ones often find a nicely dressed, more modest manner of clothing to be far more attractive. So, the percentage of how many men find which different types of clothing arousing would also have to come into play if trying to analyse any possible correlation between clothing style and rape vulnerability.

It seems that you think that rapists are some sort of vile monster I rather think that they are usually simply normal people exposed to circumstances they are unprepared for... or which test the weak soul prepared and find him... lacking.

Frankly, i do not believe that a single man finds a moderate fashion more sexually attractive than a naked or otherwise little dressed woman (unless of course the woman they consider at all times hideous ). How many hours do men spend masturbating to a great old coat, I wonder? If you can't masturbate to something: you didn't find it sexually attractive in the first place.

Ergo: find me a man masturbating to a great old coat, and I might believe you

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I did not exactly pull that one out of my ass, Sae!




http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/08/honor-...d-and.html

I didn't think you did

Did I say it was ridiculous anywhere? :S

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I agree completely, Sae. The only point I was trying to make is that rape can and will happen whether a woman dresses provocatively or not. If a woman does dress provocatively, and she gets raped... the clothing may have caused the rapist to target her (because she looked sexy), but he probably would have raped someone. It is never the woman's fault she got raped.

How commonly is it that a person about to perform a rape sets out planning to do it? Hardly as commonly as those people who find themselves in a situation where they find someone attractive and are alone... and either do not care to hold firm... or cannot resist it. Have you ever questioned why it is 'family members' who are most commonly raped? It is simply because 'family members' are much more likely to find themselves in these situations than two random strangers. Those raped by their family are more clearly the victims of trust than of lust (for else how would that lust have manifested with them both alone?).

If a woman wears skimpy clothing, I certainly take notice. I don't commit rape, though. If someone commits rape... it wasn't because of the clothing or that fact that the woman was sexy. The fault is all on the rapist. Sexy women are everywhere... and if that was cause for rape... there would be a lot more rapes.

You don't commit rape because you a: do not want to and/or b: are resilient enough that you would not, and/or c: for a reason I do not think of at this time. If someone 'commits rape'... it may in fact be because of the clothing or the sexiness that they a: wanted to, and/or b: were not resilient enough to not do so, and/or c: for a reason I do not think of at this time. In which case fault can be neatly distributed to these factors, the person who chose to wear the clothing, the parents that bore the sexy child (or the talented surgeon), etc... but each of which to a much lesser extent than the one who raped. Fault is almost never (if ever) entirely upon a single being or factor.

Sexy women are everywhere... but men and women who enter into situations where they feel the urge to rape them and/or are not resilient enough to avoid doing in a place where the rape will go relatively unobstructed (or nearby to such a place) so are not so common (in common circumstances, at the least). Sexy women are a cause for rape (as I believe has been demonstrated, though I can do it again if it has not been)... but there are not so many rapes as to reflect this because women are not so vulnerable as they may seem (if not because of their strength, then because of the strength of potential witnesses around them).