(November 14, 2015 at 6:00 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:(November 13, 2015 at 10:56 pm)ronedee Wrote: I guess you know nothing of human nature? Men do what men do. God does what God does.The stories about Jesus are no more or less "subjective" than the rest of the Bible. Taking part and leaving the rest is classic cherry picking.
Look to the "Word of God" personified as your guide. Aka Jesus. The rest is subjective: inspired by God; written by men. Common sense of those times, wisdom and discernment is needed for the OT.
Two themes are prevalent to me throughout the old testament: God's Patience & Love, and man's constant disobedience and rebellion. The ONLY solution was Jesus Christ! Its basically a backdoor to Heaven. Because we are unable to get there; as the Babylonians tried building towers to it! Unsuccessfully I might add. The symbolism is astounding, as is your negligence in seeing the relationship to mans rebellion! But again, you need open awareness to read these stories.
Jesus paid the wages of sin for us. "He who was without sin, became sin." And put sin to death on the cross! Now, sin has no exclusive powers. Death [was] only meant for sinners when the curse was adjudicated in the beginning. Christ broke that bond in living a perfect life, but dying anyway.
God said: "It is kindness that I want, not animal sacrifice." Only through human experience can we demonstrate that "act". And no amount of "omni_____." will do that. Not without God making it that way for us!
Moral of story? God gets to make us real, instead of robots! Real means: actually having a choice separate and apart from any influence.
And as for evidence? He says throughout the bible that we have sufficient evidence!
2 Peter 3:5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.
Which part can I leave since Jesus said none of it can be changed until heaven and earth pass away. So what you're saying is in direct contrast to what Jesus said.
Many of you guys claim to have attended church at some point in your lives, but apparently you've learned nothing. The Law was given to the Jews because that what they chose, the Law didn't exist until Moses..... what Law was Abraham under? The law was given to those who thought they could get to heaven by being a "good person", therefore there has to be a system that tells you what you can and cannot do... the Law, which no one could keep, I may add
You are correct the law did not pass away, we're just no longer under the law, we're under grace. We've been granted a pardon from the law freely given to whom ever wants it. Does a presidential pardon get rid of the law?
Being a christian is not about following rules, You're free to do whatever you want to do.
Do two people who decide to get married agree to live by a bunch of rules, or do they agree to love one another? If they Love one another than they naturally do things to make the other happy...
The only law we have is love.... got it?
