(November 16, 2015 at 1:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(November 16, 2015 at 1:04 pm)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: I see. Well, if that was your point, then you're right. What was the argument about? (I missed a few pages)
basically this
(November 15, 2015 at 11:07 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Is there anything in the law that rewards good behavior? no.
Being a "saint" has nothing to do with "works".....
Ah. I had a feeling it was something like that.
In reference to human law, I would tend to agree with you, but the Bible is pretty clear on the idea that obedience results in the most fabulous reward ever, whereas disobedience results in the most horrendous punishment imaginable. Even if that's not listed in the "law" parts of the Bible, it's definitely an idea that's iterated in various places.
It's also just a touch fallacious to say that works have absolutely nothing to do with being a saint, since the Bible is clear on the assertion that faith, without works, is dead. If real faith is required for salvation, and real faith always produces real works, then a lack of works indicates a lack of faith and therefore indicates a lack of salvation. Saying the two are totally unrelated just doesn't follow according to scripture.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
