(May 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm)quip Wrote:(May 17, 2016 at 1:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: So the fuck what........ You gave the ghost away with "man made institutions" BINGO
You think those "for noble truths" are special? Bullshit. Do you really need a list of code to figure out it is not nice to steal from people or physically harm them? How much comparative religion studies have you done? You would stupidly argue that no other religion in the world has similar ideas of motifs of kindness and peace? AGAIN even just those 4 noble truths were a cure, then why does Asia and the Orient have it's own history of violence? Not even that list is a cure. AND AGAIN, because, like you said, IT IS MAN MADE, and again, all religions are man made and all can point to the ideas of wanting peace and charity.
THAT says to me, and I say this to ALL religions worldwide, that our species morality is in our evolution not our labels.
What makes you believe (that I believe) that the four noble truths are "special"?
They're nothing of the sort. ( P.S. Why are you so angry?)
Knock it off, my word choice makes me blunt, not angry. If you don't believe it, why did you bring it up? Still does not change that other people do and do get upset when you tell them their religion isn't special, just because you wouldn't get violent, or demand political correctness like even liberals of all labels do, doesn't mean others dont. THEY DO,
Now, I am going to lay it all on the line and make it clear. Religion wont go away, nobody is going to force any religion out of existence, to attempt that one would become a monster. But you are playing word games with me in a very poor attempt to allow Buddhism to avoid scrutiny, no religion, not even atheists should be setting up taboos. Our species only owes each other non violence, but don't claim anyone or don't even imply that Buddhism should get a pass. I treat every religion the same and I don't even give fellow atheists a pass.
The point is religion spends way too much time protecting itself and not enough time understanding we are all the same species. You merely have an outsiders view of Buddhism, the insiders of all the competing sects have the same narrow view of their corner of the planet most people of most religions have.