RE: Scientific knowledge versus spiritual knowledge
January 7, 2016 at 7:53 pm
(This post was last modified: January 7, 2016 at 7:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 7, 2016 at 7:37 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Not asking you to suspend anything. If I stubbed my toe five years ago and showed it to you today would it be evident that I hurt it unless it was severely damaged?
Did god reveal himself to you five years ago, and since that time any trace of the event has vanished, ala a stubbed toe?
Quote:What do you have to suspend in order to believe in a creative force? Is the big bang a creative force? Is the sun? What about carbon? I state that God doesn't refute science and science doesn't refute GOD. You say that that God isn't needed to explain existence. I remind you that our observations and the theories based on them are neither complete or factual, just hypotheses.I defer to theories, not hypotheses..the difference is lost on you, clearly. But fuck it..if what I have are "just hypothesis"..what you have is the shit you've flung at a wall, nothing changes.
Quote:Indeed God is the unifying point of all existence and all encompassing, something no scientific theory can say.Because "science" cares about supporting it's statements..you do not. If you don't have an intellectually rigorous fiber in your entire body there's no limit to the things you can say.
Quote:Why do atheist always act like science refutes the existence of a single causal force responsible, in one way or another, for all other existence, laws, and energy?Why do you act as if you have a clue as to how atheists "always act"?
(January 7, 2016 at 7:45 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: How does little ole me KNOW their is a God?
A wonderful question. I predict failure.
Quote:After about 20 years of atheism and many years of self harm and harm to others, with hope and meekness of heart, by God's grace it was made undeniably obvious to me.It was made undeniably obvious to you in a manner that you are completely incapable of articulating? I doubt that.
Quote:It has since been repeatedly verified to many varied degrees.Your standards of verification are, in all likelihood, laughably low.
Quote:I am not, nor was I ever, your average Joe Christian.Yeah, you are.....but I can see that it;s important to you to believe otherwise...so have at it.
Quote:Your generally atheist would excuse it with a delusion or psychotic episode or sometimes they say seizure. I wouldn't expect anything less from them generally.Oh, would they? See... I'd just call you a liar for christ.
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