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"ISIS is not Islamic
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RE: "ISIS is not Islamic
You're right yes, the Old Testament is horrific. It's the most appalling collection of atrocities I've ever seen. So much so that Christian apologists (those that argue in its defense) spend a lot of time making excuses for why it doesn't really mean what it appears to mean, or why it doesn't apply anymore.

The New Testament is a lot better in some ways, it is generally more peaceful, although not as much as people generally seem to think. However, Jesus brought with him the idea of Hell to Christianity, the most evil thing I could imagine. So that makes Jesus actually worse than Yahweh (Old Testament God) in my opinion. At least Yahweh generally just killed people for petty reasons, he didn't set up a system where they were tortured indefinitely after death.

The Quran and the Hadiths (the Islamic texts) are really nasty too. I don't know as much about them, but I know they tell stories about a guy who is supposed to be the hero but is actually a delusional barbarian, responsible for thousands of deaths. The books spend a lot of time making it clear that anyone outside the religion is so bad as to deserve to be sent to a "Fiery Doom" (generally considered to be Islamic Hell). The texts also provide inspiration for Jihad.

Going back to interpretations, I would be very happy if atlas said, "I consider ISIS to be very bad representatives of Islam and horrible people. They don't stand for what I think Islam should be about." That would be awesome and I'd fully support it. But instead just saying they are not Muslims is to bury your head in the sand. People kill each other over interpretations of this book. And guess what? Allah just talked to me and said the Quran is all wrong and not his word. I'm the only true Muslim now. Are you calling Allah a liar?

There is no entrance requirement for being in a religion, nor is there anyone who can kick you out of it. If you say you're in that religion, you're in it. To say otherwise is literally religious oppression.

Here's another interpretation of the Quran: it's fictional nonsense, vaguely based around some historic events. Now my interpretation stands up a lot better to scrutiny than "it all happened as it is written". So clearly, no one gets to say what the "true interpretation" is, because there isn't one. It's just a book.
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"ISIS is not Islamic - by Aegon - January 12, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by vorlon13 - January 12, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Minimalist - January 12, 2016 at 7:01 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by brewer - January 12, 2016 at 7:15 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Regina - January 12, 2016 at 7:19 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by ReptilianPeon - January 12, 2016 at 7:26 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cato - January 12, 2016 at 11:33 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 13, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by ReptilianPeon - January 13, 2016 at 7:01 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cato - January 13, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 13, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Grandizer - January 13, 2016 at 9:08 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Aegon - January 13, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 12, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Grandizer - January 12, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by account_inactive - January 12, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Chad32 - January 12, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by dyresand - January 12, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by paulpablo - January 13, 2016 at 12:30 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 13, 2016 at 1:34 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 13, 2016 at 4:32 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by brewer - January 13, 2016 at 9:08 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 13, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cyberman - January 13, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 14, 2016 at 6:06 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cato - January 14, 2016 at 7:14 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 16, 2016 at 2:32 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cyberman - January 14, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by ReptilianPeon - January 14, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 19, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by yukapuka - January 13, 2016 at 5:04 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Grandizer - January 13, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by yukapuka - January 13, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cyberman - January 13, 2016 at 7:21 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by account_inactive - January 13, 2016 at 7:23 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by paulpablo - January 13, 2016 at 5:15 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by yukapuka - January 13, 2016 at 6:07 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by paulpablo - January 13, 2016 at 8:15 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by yukapuka - January 13, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by paulpablo - January 13, 2016 at 10:56 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 13, 2016 at 8:18 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2016 at 1:15 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 21, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by ReptilianPeon - January 13, 2016 at 8:48 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Nay_Sayer - January 13, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Minimalist - January 13, 2016 at 11:37 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2016 at 11:28 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Minimalist - January 13, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2016 at 4:31 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Aegon - January 13, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Catholic_Lady - January 13, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Minimalist - January 13, 2016 at 5:23 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Catholic_Lady - January 13, 2016 at 5:09 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Regina - January 13, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Catholic_Lady - January 13, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by mralstoner - January 14, 2016 at 12:42 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 14, 2016 at 7:57 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - January 14, 2016 at 9:28 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cyberman - January 14, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Catholic_Lady - January 14, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cyberman - January 14, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Catholic_Lady - January 14, 2016 at 8:02 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Cyberman - January 14, 2016 at 9:16 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Gormo - January 14, 2016 at 10:48 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 15, 2016 at 3:08 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 16, 2016 at 4:05 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 16, 2016 at 6:42 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by WinterHold - January 16, 2016 at 8:14 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by ReptilianPeon - January 16, 2016 at 7:28 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by marssims - January 16, 2016 at 7:47 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 16, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by ReptilianPeon - January 16, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by downbeatplumb - January 16, 2016 at 8:35 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by marssims - January 16, 2016 at 9:30 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by marssims - January 16, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 16, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by downbeatplumb - January 16, 2016 at 12:21 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 16, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by marssims - January 19, 2016 at 12:01 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2016 at 1:34 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by FatAndFaithless - January 19, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 19, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by FatAndFaithless - January 19, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 20, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by FatAndFaithless - January 20, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by robvalue - January 19, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 21, 2016 at 11:27 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 25, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 28, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 1, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 1, 2016 at 9:11 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Aegon - January 25, 2016 at 5:58 pm
"ISIS is not Islamic - by seculaar - January 25, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - January 26, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by The Grand Nudger - February 1, 2016 at 5:11 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Mister Agenda - February 24, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Living in Death - February 20, 2016 at 11:37 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 21, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Living in Death - February 22, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Reforged - February 22, 2016 at 10:27 pm
RE: "ISIS is not Islamic - by Living in Death - February 22, 2016 at 10:49 pm

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