If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?

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Hey, why bite my admiration to science ?  
What I'm saying is that science is actually : leading back to God.

Many scientists already admired and worked under the "law of the universe".
Who made the laws ? intelligent creation is more believable when you, through science, reach a conclusion like that.

Way to miss the point. I didn't say it was against the law to like science, I wish more people did. I said it is independent of ALL religions it is not there to prop up any religion. You liking science does not make Allah real anymore than a Jew liking science makes Yahweh real anymore than a Hindu liking science makes Vishnu real.

"law of the universe", see you do the same thing Christians do. "Law" in science does not mean the same thing religious people like it to mean. "Law" is not a government written thing when it is used in the context of science. "Law" as used in science is a description of confirmed and tested observations that are consistent over long term data observation. 

And the "who" part, you make the same mistake too. You assume a cosmic magical "sky who" is some factory owner and we are his products. No, that is now how science views nature. Just like you already accept that Thor is not needed to explain why lightening happens. Just like you already accept you don't need Poseidon to be the cause of hurricanes.

It isn't a who that did all this, it was a non cognitive process, like how the seasons change and we have different weather every day. CONDITONS, not a who, a process, not a thinking being. 

It can be viewed like riding in a giant weather pattern and we are simply a manifestation of those events. The problem you are stuck with that all god claimers are still suffer from "which god", and the problem of infinite regress.

So the simplest solution is to know if you are are right are to ask yourself, not me, but yourself, the following. Which to you seems to be more likely?

1. A god exists?

Or

2. Humans make them up and merely like the idea?

Now you already reject lots of other god claims and I would say rightfully so. You don't buy Thor as being real. You don't buy Vishnu as being real. You don't buy Yahweh as being real, and while you share some of the same characters you dont see Jesus as being the one true way to heaven.

The only difference between you and me, is that I reject one more god claim than you do. When you can aim your own skepticism that you used to reject other god claims, besides your own, at your own claim, then maybe you can see where the atheist is coming from.

I gotta stop you friend;

All the different names for the One Creator GOD that you tried to call off in refutation of the fact of a single creative force are all references to the same One Creator GOD.

Division is based in greed and lust for power. Hence the over focus on names rather than attributes, morals, teachings, life and peace.

What I'm saying is there is only One Creator GOD ultimately. The religions or faiths you named all adhere to that, and man's direction under God, by God's will. They try to anyway, based on scriptures.

Faith in selfless Unity for Good.