Meant to tear this post a new arshole before now, but I was up at the GAA club planting posts for the lights on our new all weather pitch.
There is no such thing as "scientific law" you cretin, and in science a theory is just about the highest level of certainty available to an explanatory idea, the only reason it is not given certainty is that scientists, unlike religious luders like yourself, know that we don't have full knowledge of reality and what we believe today to be built on the firmest foundations could be easily destroyed by further observation and experimentation.
No the big bang is nothing like the genesis myth. First of all the big bang is not responsible for the ordinary everyday light we get from Sol, which is what fiat lux was all about in the first place. Second of all the big bang doesn't put the creation of items in the wrong order, e.g. the aforementioned sunlight being created before the sun, or water being created before the Earth.
No, a 2,500 year mythos cobbled out of older Babylonian and Egyption mythologies which has managed to get every single detail wrong has nothing in common with the scientific theory we have which has managed to be the best yet discovered for explaining how the universe came to be, including explaining observed phenomena and predicting ones not yet observed (at the time of its formulation).
Well the best guess based on observation and experimentation is c. 13.5 bn years for the universe, and 5.5 bn years for the solar system. But then again your plucked out of the air figure for the age of the universe is a non biblical attempt to handwave away the fact that the bible says 6,000 years give or take, meaning that the bible thinks the world is younger than some civilisations in the Fertile Crescent that we know from archaelogical evidence exist and who we can confidently date.
So it's our fault that god created evil? And if god didn't create evil, but allowed us to do so, then how is he all powerful again?
Because. Also they are not "scientific laws", they are theories, our best explanation for why the universe is as it is.
Yes your nonsense is pretty telling (there is not one single coherent idea in that last 2 sentence group), telling me that you know shit-all about what you are talking about, and that your mind has been closed to curiosity and discovery for a long time. You remind me a lot of the "artist friend" that Richard Feynman talked about once, the one who could only comprehend things on a superficial level, and was so afraid of deeper meaning and complex ideas he had to dismiss them out of hand.
More meaningless drivel.
And seeing as you like to have a pat formulation at the end of your posts, here's something more profound that you would be wise considering:
"Tak does not require us to think of him, only that we think."
When you have discovered the true meaning of those words, you will begin to shed your unwarranted and unthinking belief in god.
(January 21, 2016 at 6:39 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: Brian37
The big bang is a theory, not a scientific law.
There is no such thing as "scientific law" you cretin, and in science a theory is just about the highest level of certainty available to an explanatory idea, the only reason it is not given certainty is that scientists, unlike religious luders like yourself, know that we don't have full knowledge of reality and what we believe today to be built on the firmest foundations could be easily destroyed by further observation and experimentation.
Quote: But it does align with scripture(let there be light).
No the big bang is nothing like the genesis myth. First of all the big bang is not responsible for the ordinary everyday light we get from Sol, which is what fiat lux was all about in the first place. Second of all the big bang doesn't put the creation of items in the wrong order, e.g. the aforementioned sunlight being created before the sun, or water being created before the Earth.
Quote:The rest of the formation of the earth you have is also similar to how it is described in scripture, given it's translated from a completely different style of language.
No, a 2,500 year mythos cobbled out of older Babylonian and Egyption mythologies which has managed to get every single detail wrong has nothing in common with the scientific theory we have which has managed to be the best yet discovered for explaining how the universe came to be, including explaining observed phenomena and predicting ones not yet observed (at the time of its formulation).
Quote:As far as the age of existence that lead to what we have now; 6 billion years sounds bout right. Of course time isn't a constant and most likely progressed differently close to rapid expansion.
Well the best guess based on observation and experimentation is c. 13.5 bn years for the universe, and 5.5 bn years for the solar system. But then again your plucked out of the air figure for the age of the universe is a non biblical attempt to handwave away the fact that the bible says 6,000 years give or take, meaning that the bible thinks the world is younger than some civilisations in the Fertile Crescent that we know from archaelogical evidence exist and who we can confidently date.
Quote:I'm not stuck on pretty. Death is part of life, as is suffering, at this time.
It can even be said that natural disasters, deseases, viruses, cancers, and other pain and suffering not only is so we might learn, but could be pretty much wholly avoidable if we would have adhered to the life giving direction of the One Creator GOD long ago. Still the greed of man plagues all.
So it's our fault that god created evil? And if god didn't create evil, but allowed us to do so, then how is he all powerful again?
Quote:Tell you what! Explain to me why the scientific laws are the way they are, and not some other way.
Because. Also they are not "scientific laws", they are theories, our best explanation for why the universe is as it is.
Quote:Oh yeah; a black hole is potential on a nearly infinite scale. Pretty telling.
Yes your nonsense is pretty telling (there is not one single coherent idea in that last 2 sentence group), telling me that you know shit-all about what you are talking about, and that your mind has been closed to curiosity and discovery for a long time. You remind me a lot of the "artist friend" that Richard Feynman talked about once, the one who could only comprehend things on a superficial level, and was so afraid of deeper meaning and complex ideas he had to dismiss them out of hand.
Quote:There is also chaos(potential) in each of us.
Faith in selfless Unity for Good.
More meaningless drivel.
And seeing as you like to have a pat formulation at the end of your posts, here's something more profound that you would be wise considering:
"Tak does not require us to think of him, only that we think."
When you have discovered the true meaning of those words, you will begin to shed your unwarranted and unthinking belief in god.
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