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If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
(January 29, 2016 at 1:46 am)Sheed1980 Wrote:
(January 28, 2016 at 9:23 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: These type of coincidences demonstrate nothing.  They result from people with two much time on their hands looking for significance where there is none.  Now if Muhammed had written about such numbers occurring in his text, I might not so casually dismiss it, but then it would be intentional.   There's nothing here that couldn't have happened by accident.  As far as proof of faith, none of these numerological miracles is convincing.  It's like the Davinci code; you can find parallels in any text of sufficient length.
The first thing u have to understand is Prophet Muhammad pbuh didn't write this or anything else in the Qur'an because he was illiterate, he couldn't read or write, and everybody who knew him knew this. That was one reason why God sent it through him. To show that no human could come up with such a scripture. But how about God says in the Qur'an The universe is expanding. How could anyone in the 7th century, when telescopes and satellites weren't even drawn up, have knowledge of this unless He created the universe. Today astronomists see our universe is still expanding to this day. Imagine drawing dots on a balloon then inflating it with air. The dots will move further away from one another which is exactly what stars and planets in our universe is doing as well. What human had knowledge of this, back in a time when they thought the Earth was flat and the mountains held up the skies? Or another example is the words for land and sea are mentioned 13 times and 32 times throughout the Qur'an. Add them to get 45. Then 13/45=28.8888889% and 32/45=71.1111111% these are the exact scientific percentages of land and water that cover our planet to this day. No human knew this. So this book had to have come from someone who did have that knowledge, who is none other than Allah, our creator I have more for u if u like


NO, you are simply looking for excuses in that book to cling to it. Holy books are not predictive. They are myths that were written for the times of the people they were written in. It is the same mental error that allows someone to fall for horoscopes, the same mental error that allows someone to believe that the magician sawed the woman in half. The same mental error that allows gullible humans to believe psychics are real.

There is no such thing as a prophet just like there never were Oracle priests talking to the polytheistic gods of Greece and Rome. There is no such thing as a book with magic powers, and nobody has ever talked to a god. Fishing for excuses in a non scientific book after the fact based on ambiguous quotes does not count. Again, every religion does this.

You merely like what you believe, that's all. We can tell you it is all in your head and if you are brave enough to question the claims of others, then you can and should be intellectually brave enough to aim that criticism at your self and your own claims.

By the way, what is with your superstition always saying pbuh? I know what it means , but I find that as superfluous as when Jews  insist you never type god's name "Yahweh"? Every time you type "pbuh" I get the image of someone winning a giant stuffed teddy bear at a carnival. It sounds like you are talking about Winnie The Poo, "pbuh=Poo Bear".
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RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by Brian37 - January 29, 2016 at 7:01 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 31, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 2, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:13 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:25 pm

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