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If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
(January 29, 2016 at 7:01 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 29, 2016 at 1:46 am)Sheed1980 Wrote: The first thing u have to understand is Prophet Muhammad pbuh didn't write this or anything else in the Qur'an because he was illiterate, he couldn't read or write, and everybody who knew him knew this. That was one reason why God sent it through him. To show that no human could come up with such a scripture. But how about God says in the Qur'an The universe is expanding. How could anyone in the 7th century, when telescopes and satellites weren't even drawn up, have knowledge of this unless He created the universe. Today astronomists see our universe is still expanding to this day. Imagine drawing dots on a balloon then inflating it with air. The dots will move further away from one another which is exactly what stars and planets in our universe is doing as well. What human had knowledge of this, back in a time when they thought the Earth was flat and the mountains held up the skies? Or another example is the words for land and sea are mentioned 13 times and 32 times throughout the Qur'an. Add them to get 45. Then 13/45=28.8888889% and 32/45=71.1111111% these are the exact scientific percentages of land and water that cover our planet to this day. No human knew this. So this book had to have come from someone who did have that knowledge, who is none other than Allah, our creator I have more for u if u like


NO, you are simply looking for excuses in that book to cling to it. Holy books are not predictive. They are myths that were written for the times of the people they were written in. It is the same mental error that allows someone to fall for horoscopes, the same mental error that allows someone to believe that the magician sawed the woman in half. The same mental error that allows gullible humans to believe psychics are real.

There is no such thing as a prophet just like there never were Oracle priests talking to the polytheistic gods of Greece and Rome. There is no such thing as a book with magic powers, and nobody has ever talked to a god. Fishing for excuses in a non scientific book after the fact based on ambiguous quotes does not count. Again, every religion does this.

You merely like what you believe, that's all. We can tell you it is all in your head and if you are brave enough to question the claims of others, then you can and should be intellectually brave enough to aim that criticism at your self and your own claims.

By the way, what is with your superstition always saying pbuh? I know what it means , but I find that as superfluous as when Jews  insist you never type god's name "Yahweh"? Every time you type "pbuh" I get the image of someone winning a giant stuffed teddy bear at a carnival. It sounds like you are talking about Winnie The Poo, "pbuh=Poo Bear".
According to the Quran, around the year 620 AD, about 7 years after the severe defeat of the Christian Romans armies (led by Heraclius) by the Persians. The first verses of Surat-Ar-Rum predicted that the severely defeated Romans would soon be victorious over the idolatrous Persians. At the Battle of Antioch in 613–614 AD, the Persians took control over important Eastern Roman territories expanding into SyriaJerusalemArmenia and Egypt. The Eastern Roman Empire was so very unlikely to get over this Persian expansion and was about to collapse totally. In 622, Heraclius gained a number of victories over the Persians and conquered Armenia. In 627, the two empires fought a decisive battle at Nineveh, some 50 km east of the Tigris river, near  in which the Romans emerged victorious. Another future claiming event takes place in ch 54 Al-Qaar The Moon. The word moonis used only one time in this chapter. If u count the remaining chapters from that verse to the end of the Qur'an u will count 1390 verses. The year 1390 in the Islamic Hijra calendar is equivalent to 1969 of our Gregorian calendar. All of us know in 1969 man first set foot on the MOON. Ch 19 Maryam or Mary verse 57 God says he was raised to a high place. 19:57 of the Qur'an right? 1957 was the year Sputnik the first man made satellite was raised high into space. There are other examples that are mentioned how the Earth will be destroyed on Judgment Day, but of course we can't talk about that, nor the questioning in our graves by the 2 angels Munkar and Nakir until it actually happens, and that knowledge is with Allah alone. I'm glad to see where ur sense of humor leads to but we as Muslims always wish peace upon all of Allah's prophets. That's what pbuh means peace be upon him but u knew that already.

(January 29, 2016 at 4:32 am)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: I just want to add that the percentage of the surface of the Earth that is water is constantly changing. I find it odd that the Saudis tried to sabotage Paris climate talks given that if global warming melts all of the ice then this scientific miracle of the Quran to do with the surface of the Earth will not longer be valid.

And why are you counting freshwater in your calculations when the word you used to do the calculations is "seas"? If you exclude freshwater then the percentage will not be 71%. I think you're being very disingenuous.
Using the Arabic term which relates to all natural bodies of water, whether salt or fresh. So ur excuse to try to prove this as false information won't work. If it were the case of differing being salt and fresh water we couldn't consider the Great Salt lake in Utah a lake, but instead a small sea right? So as u see with the Arabic words the percentages prove true no way around it
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Messages In This Thread
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by Sheed1980 - January 29, 2016 at 10:30 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 31, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 2, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:13 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:25 pm

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