If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?

[Brian37]

You mean like this?

https://youtu.be/_7iXw9zZrLo

We know how to get past those kind of questioners, just confuse them enough.

I'm glad u have a sense of humor with ur mockery. But it is much more serious than that I guarantee. 2 angels named Munkar and Nakir, with jet black faces and blue eyes and voices like thunder will sit u up in ur grave and ask u 3 simple questions and they want straight answers. Who is your Lord? What is your religion? Who was this man sent to you as prophet? Those who disbelieve will answer incorrectly and will hear a voice say"My servant has lied, prepare for them a coffin from Hellfire." Then u will be shown a window of Paradise. It will be said this is what your Lord has prepared for you, but since you disbelieved you receive this instead. Then an ugly man with a foul stench as your bad deeds will keep you company as you are wrapped in burning shrouds of hellfire. The grave will squeeze your body so tight that your ribs will switch places. The 2 angels will strike you with iron hammers so powerful they will turn a mountain to dust. You will beg Allah not to bring on the Day of Judgment so you dont receive hellfire.However,  those of us who believe will answer Allah is my Lord. Islam is my religion. The man sent to me was prophet Muhammad pbuh. We then hear a voice saying "My servant has told the truth, prepare for them a coffin from Paradise. Then you will be shown a window of Hellfire. It will be said This is what your Lord has prepared for you but since you believed and did good you receive this instead. Then your grave will be filled with light and space as far as the eye can see. You will be wrapped in comfortable garments with the sweetest scent of musk and a pleasant breeze from Paradise. Then a handsome good smellIng person as your good deeds will keep you company until the Day of Judgment. You will be so pleased and ready to receive your reward that you will beg Allah to bring on the Day of Judgment. Which situation would you like to be in my friend?

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Sure you do, because you define atheist differently than an atheist does.

Now again, Islam is not the only religion that has fans who point to their book to claim it matches science. Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists do it too.

When religion cant debunk science it tries to co opt science. Scientific method is not a religion, it is a tool. It does not prop up claims of Allah or Jesus or Yahweh or Buddha or Vishnu. Scientific method is completely religion independent. It is why a plane will fly in Iran, and a computer will work in Japan, and a flu vaccine will work in South Africa. It is why a cell phone will work in Australia and China.

Science does NOT prop up the Quran or Bible or Torah or Talmud or Vedas. Those are all human concocted myths humans like believing.

So all of these examples that I can give are just one big coincidence? How many coincidences do u need to see before u say this had to be planned by someone?

No not even coincidence, just made up bullshit. None of what you posted is an actual demonstration of knowledge. Just made up junk. Try debating some Christians or Jews or Hindus.

This Christian website would claim science matches their bible.

https://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingt...ible.shtml

This Jew would claim that science backs up Jews.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cd...Talmud.htm

Or this Jew.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/...he-talmud/

Bet this Hindu would argue science props up their religion.

https://www.facebook.com/sciencehinduism/

This website claims Hindu is a religion and a science.

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Sanatana_Dh...or_science

I am sure Buddhist will watch this video and go A HA, WE GOT IT RIGHT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj_i7YqDwJA

I say you are all wrong and religion is all man made and all of you are simply trying to retrofit science into garbage looking backwards after the fact.