If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?

[Sheed1980]

Well I know how a lot of atheists believe in scientific and astronomical reasoning and as I said there are plenty of examples of the Qur'an that are supported by these schools of thought. For example there are 114 chapters in the Qur'an. Ch.57 is Al-Hadyd or The Iron. Arabic letters have numerical value like Roman numerals in a sense. So with the word for iron Hadyd...(Ha)H=8 (Dal)D=4 (Ya)Y=10 and (Dal)=4. Add these values together u get 26. Look on any periodic table on Fe the symbol for iron u see the atomic number is 26. Now furthermore the Arabic article Al which means the (Alif)A=1 and(Lam)L=30. Add this 31 to the value of 26 Making it 57 and Al-Hadyd "The iron" which is the chapter name and number. To take it 1 step further 57 is exactly halfway through the Qur'an..scientists have discovered that if u cut the Earth in half, exactly to its inner core, it consists of molten iron.

You know, earlier I asked you to give scientific predictions in the quran, but you ignored that question. Here though, you give the kind of shitty answer I was half expecting you to give. As I said previously, you can't go back to the quran after something is discovered scientificaly and say "Aha! (this joke is not for you Sheed, it is only for people who like using their brains at least some of the time) The quran predicted that!" because that is not how it works. In order to show that the quran predicted that Iron had 26 protons in it, either you would have to show us the passage which says the equivalent of "Iron has 26 protons in it's nucleus" or a scholar able to show conclusively, before the scientific discovery, that the relevant passages are concerned with the composition of Iron. Kabbalistic number bullshit does not cut it, not even remotely, because if you juggle any book long enough around enough you can get it to indicate anything.

Also, the earth's core made of molten iron, numb-nuts.

So check any periodic table or ask any scientist what the atomic number for iron is. I guarantee they say 26 if they're honest. And I said the Earth's core is molten iron

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I'm glad u have a sense of humor with ur mockery.

Hey, I only mock you because you believe in obvious bullshit and lies. If you don't like it, you can always take the door with you on your way out.

Your two angels don't exist. Your heavenly gardens don't exist. Your seventy two ever renewing virgins (or is it currants, that dot placement is very vague) don't exist. Your soul doesn't exist (consciousness is an emergent consequence of the evolution of increasingly complex brains and synaptical patterns, nothing more), your paedophile pigshit eating god doesn't exist.

If u believe what u say is true. Invoke the curse and wrath of the God of the heavens and the Earth, that u don't believe exists, on yourself in this life and in the Hereafter. Since u believe God nor the Hereafter exists there shouldn't be a problem at all with u making this statement right?

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I'm glad u have a sense of humor with ur mockery. But it is much more serious than that I guarantee. 2 angels named Munkar and Nakir, with jet black faces and blue eyes and voices like thunder will sit u up in ur grave and ask u 3 simple questions and they want straight answers. Who is your Lord? What is your religion? Who was this man sent to you as prophet? Those who disbelieve will answer incorrectly and will hear a voice say"My servant has lied, prepare for them a coffin from Hellfire." Then u will be shown a window of Paradise. It will be said this is what your Lord has prepared for you, but since you disbelieved you receive this instead. Then an ugly man with a foul stench as your bad deeds will keep you company as you are wrapped in burning shrouds of hellfire. The grave will squeeze your body so tight that your ribs will switch places. The 2 angels will strike you with iron hammers so powerful they will turn a mountain to dust. You will beg Allah not to bring on the Day of Judgment so you dont receive hellfire.However,  those of us who believe will answer Allah is my Lord. Islam is my religion. The man sent to me was prophet Muhammad pbuh. We then hear a voice saying "My servant has told the truth, prepare for them a coffin from Paradise. Then you will be shown a window of Hellfire. It will be said This is what your Lord has prepared for you but since you believed and did good you receive this instead. Then your grave will be filled with light and space as far as the eye can see. You will be wrapped in comfortable garments with the sweetest scent of musk and a pleasant breeze from Paradise. Then a handsome good smellIng person as your good deeds will keep you company until the Day of Judgment. You will be so pleased and ready to receive your reward that you will beg Allah to bring on the Day of Judgment. Which situation would you like to be in my friend?

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So all of these examples that I can give are just one big coincidence? How many coincidences do u need to see before u say this had to be planned by someone?

No not even coincidence, just made up bullshit. None of what you posted is an actual demonstration of knowledge. Just made up junk. Try debating some Christians or Jews or Hindus.

This Christian website would claim science matches their bible.

https://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingt...ible.shtml

This Jew would claim that science backs up Jews.

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cd...Talmud.htm

Or this Jew.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/...he-talmud/

Bet this Hindu would argue science props up their religion.

https://www.facebook.com/sciencehinduism/

This website claims Hindu is a religion and a science.

http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Sanatana_Dh...or_science

I am sure Buddhist will watch this video and go A HA, WE GOT IT RIGHT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj_i7YqDwJA

I say you are all wrong and religion is all man made and all of you are simply trying to retrofit science into garbage looking backwards after the fact.

Well to you be your way of belief and to me be mine