If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?

[Sheed1980]

You're not offending me by not accepting my belief. I'm doing this to try to help others see what we as Muslims believe is true and why we believe it to be true. The deep part of it is that we need to accept it as the truth now because once we're gone from this life and the truth that was told to us comes forward, it'll be too late to say I know now so I'll go back and do better. So the proof my friend is being shown to us now in ways but the real proof is after we die

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First of all I'm not threatening u at all. I simply challenged u since u speak so negatively towards God. And I see that u haven't written the comment, so some part of ur conscience is telling maybe I shouldn't say that. Secondly the comments u make negatively towards my God Allah and my Prophet Muhammad pbuh aren't hurting me in the long run. Sure I take offense to it, but it is ur God given free right to believe as u will. But u don't have to stand b4 me in judgment u as well as everybody else has to stand b4 Allah

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Another point u miss is that God doesn't need anyone for anything He i s All Powerful, free of all needs, worthy of all praise. He places us here to see if we're going to speak the truth about Him and live righteously worshipping Him alone, and living righteously amongst each other. This life is a test to pass, and pleasing God to receive whatever our minds and heart desire only times and times better than we can possibly imagine. It is also a test to fail and angering God to receive punishment more severe than we could imagine as well. So long story short we're living this life for ourselvesnot God. We can get whatever we want by passing or everything we don't want by failing

No you are missing the point. If you agree god does not need humans, then the fact you are trying to make an argument for it, you are being hypocritical. Why are you even here if you agree he doesn't need humans?

Prove he doesn't need you, stop posting here, OR admit it is flawed logic you are using. Each post you make after this and even the ones prior prove that you don't really believe what you claim, you only merely truly like the idea of what you claim.

Oh and don't use the word "test". That is a vile way to think of human beings. A "test" is something you take in school. A "test" is something you take to get a job. A "test" is something you take to get on a sports team, or to get into a music program.

I find it sick that you'd think it a "test" and justify things like childhood cancer, or child murder or rape, as a "test". Much less all the 50 million humans who die worldwide from everything every year. If you consider all that death a "test", your morality as a human being sucks.

If you want to think of yourself as a lab rat you can, I don't consider myself a toy to be fucked with in violent ways just to glorify one selfish sky bully.

As said b4 I am not living my life to help God He doesn't need my help nor anyone elses. I am living this life for myself. And this life is a test. It's a test of morals and judgment. If we pass we get to have the most magnificent reward from God. Where if we fail we get the most severe painful and humiliating punishment from God. All of our deeds are being recorded as we live life on Earth. 2 angels, one on our right records our good deeds and the one on the left records our bad deeds. There is a chapter in the Qur'an 101: 1)The Day of noise and clamour.2)What i The Day of noise and clamour? 3)And what will explain to you what The Day of noise and clamour is? 4)It is a day when men will be like moths scattered about.5)And the mountains will be as carded wool. 6)Then he whose good deeds will be found heavy.7)Will find his home in a mead of joy and delight.8)But he whose good deeds will be found light.9)Will find his home in a bottomless pit. 10)And what will explain to you what that is? 11)It's a fire blazing fiercely.
So in this God tells us about Judgment day and about our deeds being weighed against each other to determine our fate in the Hereafter. So this is a test my friend. If we pass we are rewarded with the best reward beyond our imagination. But if we fail, there will be a punishment worse than anything ever. So God continually tells us "Believe and do righteous deeds in order to succeed". We can't just do one and not the other