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If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua?
The worst part of your argument you don't even realize is the language you use. And again, this also applies to Jews and Christians.

"Lord" denotes a king, not an elected official like in the secular west in real life. In real life back then, both in polytheism and monotheism, most humans were ruled by kings called "Lords". Lords were not someone you could remove from their positions. Even Rome under Caesar while they allowed a senate, the Caesar was still the ultimate power who could override the Senate. It was still ultimately a puppet government. Christianity did not invent modern secular law. It simply copied the Roman empire and replaced their polytheism with Christian dictators and puppet governments.

Islam also reflects the same feudal mentality. The literary reason you see "Lord" used in all three books, is literally because that is what most humans lived under.

Now, if any Christian or Muslim or Jew values a secular pluralistic west, as I think they should, then they need to be self reflective as to why those books were written, and the truth is they were written for the humans back then reflecting the social norms of life back then. None of them have any modern value as far as reflecting modern pluralism. Those books were written in a very tribal time because that is how people lived, under kings, dictators.
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RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 6:57 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 25, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 23, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:46 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 31, 2016 at 11:04 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 2, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 3, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:13 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 1, 2016 at 8:44 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 29, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - January 30, 2016 at 5:36 pm
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by Brian37 - February 2, 2016 at 7:45 am
RE: If Allah has a plan, what is the point of Dua? - by GUBU - February 4, 2016 at 6:25 pm

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