(January 23, 2016 at 3:44 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(January 23, 2016 at 3:38 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, so why were you refuting my initial comment about the Church's position on the death penalty by quoting a random passage from the bible to try to prove that the Church is ok with it?
EDIT to add: And as you pointed out yourself, the 1st edition of the CCC pretty much says the same exact thing with less words and going into less details. But still the same teaching. So I don't see what your objection is to my statements on this.
I'm sorry that you cannot appreciate the difference between the words "should" and "will". (My kids do, by the way.) The Catholic Church's "evolving" position on the death penalty is a perfect example of the Zeitgeist at work, "theologically speaking". But, yes, "Welcome!" I am glad that the Church is on board with respect to this issue at least.
So what exactly is the difference between the 1st edition's teaching and the 2nd, other than the fact that they used a different word that doesn't even change the message? They both say that the DP is only ok if it is the only means to keep a society safe, otherwise the right thing is to take the route that does not kill the person.
With that being said, yes, the teachings do evolve over the course of 2,000 years. The official, doctrinal teachings don't change completely but they evolve and get added on as we come to a better understanding of things. However, on this particular issue, I see no "evolution" between the 1st and 2nd edition's stance. And I still don't understand why you objected to my initial post about this in the first place.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh