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Poll: Do think that the death penalty is ever appropriate?
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No, never.
58.33%
28 58.33%
In very limited circumstances, such as multiple murders.
29.17%
14 29.17%
For murder alone with aggravating circumstances.
2.08%
1 2.08%
Any violent crime should be punished by death.
6.25%
3 6.25%
Yes, as a common punishment for any serious crime.
4.17%
2 4.17%
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Atheism & the Death Penalty.
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty.
(January 25, 2016 at 10:29 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: They mean the exact same thing. Just because they used the words "authority should limit itself" in the first and "authority will limit itself" in the 2nd, really means nothing at all. Heck, it was probably just a different translator since they are not originally written in English. The message is clearly the same, and that message is exactly what I said on my post that you, for whatever reason, objected to - the DP is only ok when it is the only way of keeping society safe from a predator... but if there is another way that doesn't kill them, that way should be used instead. That was the teaching in the first Catechism, and it is the teaching in the Catechism of today.  

I'm sure you know that and are just grasping at straws so you don't have to admit that you were wrong about the Catechism changing its teaching on this.


Should is a duty, an obligation. Something you aspire to accomplish.
Will is future tense. An inevitability. One expresses a much stronger commitment to it than the other.
1. "I should avoid bludgeoning that man to death with a rock."
2. "I will avoid bludgeoning that man to death with a rock."
Do you see the difference?


The change would seem to reflect the attitudes of the times. Why was the change required? Presumably you don't think God made a mistake, that it was the translators with their different interpretations. Correct me if I'm wrong. 
If thats the case how can you be sure about anything the bible says without reading it in its original hebrew? Shouldn't this be of a huge concern to you considering a result of this is that the always right, never changing word of God is changing often? Sometimes radically?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 7:24 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Red_Wind - January 20, 2016 at 7:47 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by robvalue - January 20, 2016 at 8:21 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Alex K - January 20, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 8:38 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Little Rik - January 20, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 8:39 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by robvalue - January 20, 2016 at 8:09 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 8:45 am
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Homeless Nutter - January 20, 2016 at 8:29 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by robvalue - January 20, 2016 at 8:30 am
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Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 20, 2016 at 1:07 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 8:16 pm
Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Reforged - January 20, 2016 at 1:13 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Ravenshire - January 21, 2016 at 1:09 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Reforged - January 21, 2016 at 1:13 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 21, 2016 at 9:43 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Reforged - January 21, 2016 at 10:57 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Ravenshire - January 21, 2016 at 2:31 pm
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 22, 2016 at 8:42 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 22, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Reforged - January 22, 2016 at 3:02 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Ben Davis - January 21, 2016 at 10:13 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Chad32 - January 20, 2016 at 1:20 pm
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Simon Moon - January 20, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Minimalist - January 20, 2016 at 5:53 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Chad32 - January 20, 2016 at 6:08 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Minimalist - January 20, 2016 at 6:02 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2016 at 6:23 pm
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Chad32 - January 20, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 20, 2016 at 7:55 pm
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 20, 2016 at 11:42 pm
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Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 20, 2016 at 8:44 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 9:07 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Simon Moon - January 20, 2016 at 8:53 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 9:09 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Simon Moon - January 20, 2016 at 8:50 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Mermaid - January 20, 2016 at 9:12 pm
Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 20, 2016 at 9:25 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Jehanne - January 20, 2016 at 10:58 pm
Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 20, 2016 at 11:08 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 21, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Minimalist - January 20, 2016 at 11:47 pm
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2016 at 5:01 am
Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 21, 2016 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 21, 2016 at 10:21 am
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Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 21, 2016 at 10:22 am
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Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 21, 2016 at 10:32 am
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 21, 2016 at 12:21 pm
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RE: Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by God of Mr. Hanky - January 22, 2016 at 9:46 am
Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 22, 2016 at 11:31 am
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Atheism & the Death Penalty. - by LadyForCamus - January 23, 2016 at 12:21 am
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