Interracial Marriage and the Bible

[Drich]

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I guess you are not aware the word's primary meaning supports what I am describing:
com·mu·ni·ty
/kəˈmyo͞onədē/
noun
   1. a group of people living in the same place or having a particular characteristic in common "Rhode Island's Japanese community"

How can I speak to you as Not being insanely naive if your 'defination of 'community' does not even repersent the very dictionary you reference???

You guys absolutely kill me with your pomp and arrogance and then pretend that I am the one off base. Yes I do flourish and strut when I am right, but here's the thing... I only do it when I AM RIGHT! Not when I think I'm right or I am on one side of an argument or another... I genuinely research EVERYTHING I even look up common words and take absolutely nothing for granted. Why? Because 9xs out of 10 you people do what you did here with your reference of the word community. You assume you know something or the meaning of a word because of how it is used in your pop world view. In contrast I have never been able to take anything for granted, I assume nothing and always seek verification and the source. So when I tell you something simple, like:
According to whom/what? is this a product of well wishing?
Who have you spoken what resource have you tapped? or is this you taking the pulse of what you think this nation should be?
Again the only time race is not an issue is when you belong to one or another.

Is because i have done my research, and I do know while people of mixed races can be loved and yes accepted into society, they will never experience the bond one experiences as being apart of a racial community. (per the very definition of the word I cut and pasted, not your hippy blue state of mind.

Actually no, you tapped what you thought was the definition of the word community, but were too lazy to actually check to see if you were right.

Stop "feeling"/being lead by hate and emotion and listen to me for one second. I have no doubt everything you 'feel' is correct in your little corner of the world. But understand the world is a very big big place and the vast majority of the 7 billion people on this planet do not think as you do. If you were to just take how India and Chine views race, and even their own social classes with in their races more than 1/2 of the world's population stands in direct contrast to your liberal idea of "community." Now google this before you speak and make yourself look foolish. These people do indeed view the world in what did you call it "Binary belief that one must belong to one community or not at all." Again, maybe for you and all of the little people in your little home town or even state may believe as you do. I have acknowledged your beliefs, and set them aside because in this instance I am speaking on how the WORLD WORKS. Not the people Just in your little corner of it.

I'm not the one with the paint sport-ress. You are painting yourself to be clueless because your world view does not include verifiable fact. Just in this last post of yours you have demonstrated this. I asked you for source material and you provided a dictionary definition that does not completely represent the word as it is being use or framed by me.

So then again, how is it I am supposed to take you seriously?
Are you of mixed race? Do you take on the traits of one race verse the other?
 
Then please demonstrate this to be false. Show me how say a 1/2 white 1/2 Chinese person who maybe looks a little more white than Chinese, will be completely accepted into a traditional Chinese community. (one that forbids the mixing of races) Of Indian which in their cast system looks at interbreeding among the various casts (same race) as being forbidden, let alone a true foreigner.

Again, your metric, your understanding ONLY WORKS where you live MAYBE... You seem to have NO Idea of how the rest of the world works. Even Oprah seems to think that lighter skinned black people are discriminated against heavily in the black community here in america:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/13...88825.html

Does this sound like all are being treated equally in this given community here is the US? Black and white is the most common racial divide and therefore more pressure is placed on those communities to 'Play well' with each other, yet here is one of many articals I have found on 'color-ism.' If all is as you say and everyone is welcome then why is 'color-ism' a thing in this 'community?' (my defination/dictionary primary, not yours)

Yet another example of how clueless you seem to be. It would seem YOUR Personal experience is the exception and not how the rule of the world works.


Again, I at no point said a mix race people could not be loved of socially accepted. I said They will simply never belong to a specific racial community as someone who has both parents being of the same race.

And what's more I have posted several examples of racial division concerning people of mixed races.

Bottom line I bring facts to this discussion you are trying to argue emotion and 'feeling.' The way you want the world to work.. Here's the thing. It doesn't! Once people like you truly sees the frame work of the world you might have a chance in changing something, but if you just keep insisting your feelings on how the world works is how the world works you like all those like you are doomed to fail outside of your own little 'communities'.

We are not a race/community. However we are a social group of human beings/people of which I am a member. like it or not.

nice strawman, but if you were to look back at the beginning of my last post to divinity I opened with:

Again I have always said while we can be loved... while we can be apart of a social group... we will never be apart of a community. Again the word community meaning the primary definition I posted at the top of the page, not your hippy only definition. Nothing's changed in my argument, only your perception. You see you built a straw man of my argument based on your naive definition of community, and because you do not understand the word can mean more that what you have been able to define you assume my position was the polar oppsite of yours. It wasn't.

You are correct. I will NEVER Admit to being wrong even unto death when I know my vetted information is 100% correct.

 
A racial heritage that they/we will never be able to be fully apart of.
Again, even in this country Even among the most common racial divide, Oprah herself is trying to acknoweledge and bring awareness to "colorism"/bigotry of people not of pure racial decent.

...Yet you would have me believe someone who has experienced this divide 40+ years and spoken with hundreds if not thousands of other people like me who also experience this divide, we are all wrong.. because of how you personally define humanity?!?!? PLUEEZE


Now you get it I see.
Now understand these are not my words... These are words I've heard all my life. My question is what can a parent or even family offer to off set these words?


If you believe that the world does not view race in "binary terms" then the above statement does indeed address your position 110%

I am demonstrating that several different cultures can and do indeed see race in 'binary terms.' You say it doesn't so my question to you is, if you are right how do you explain the types of attitudes I have outlined above?

Again, these are not my words, but words I have heard all my life arguing against my existence. So please take all your blue state philosophy, and help people like me answer these arguments. Or does none of this matter to you because it does not apply to you in your sheltered existence?

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So, maybe this time before you go off half cocked and use more of my own arguments to try and subdue me, read what I wrote here, then I will pull all of this together into a 'teaching moment.'

 

LOL...What a steaming pile! 

Get these words through that thick fucking skull of yours, Sport:

Now learn to live with it.

Wow.. Just wow...

You people are really self righteous douche bags, who don't know nor don't care how the real world works. That my frail and fragile little 'precious' is because you have been protected your whole life by the shield and sense of belonging/community you get from belonging to a race of people. The very thing that one takes away from their kids (When they do not favor/look like one race more strongly than the other) when they decide to marry someone of a different race. So again I ask what happens to the child when he is challenged about his race? This kid has to be super strong and secure on his own background because he is indeed completely independent/on his own. Like I said before their won't be a larger group of his particular mix coming to save him if a bunch of others of another race is beating him up. No one can stand up and point to thousands of years of pride and heritage.

So where does this strength HAVE to Come From?? his selfish parents! The Parents will be the only ones in a position to give this kid all the tools he will need to meet the challenges of all the people I pointed to that you did not want to answer in post 71:

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So... the rest of the world you mean? or is this more of the white guilt i was talking about in the other posts? Again, what if I weren't white? What if I were American Indian looking to preserve what's left of my culture? what if in order to do that i and other of my tribe feel a need to close ranks and expel all outside influences?

Are you saying American Indians who think this way are "moron assholes just taking up your oxygen??" If so what should 'we' do with them? Or again does your philosophy only apply to white people?

What if I were a black woman who does not agree with your white grandaughter 'stealing one of our good black men?' Is she then also an asshole moron who is just breathing up all your oxygen? If so What should be done with her and people like her?

In essence what is wrong with people of any given race (especially if they are in the minority) who want to preserve their heritage, if in fact it does not include those of different races?

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The Parents Have to be able to Answer ALL of the Questions and challenges like the ones I provided and many many more. And what's more they have to find a balance between those who rightfully balance honor and racial tradition like the American Indian or the Black woman I mentioned, yet help their kids find the self worth they need to survive. A Parent can not do this if all the can think about is different color 'sugar.' Or better yet looking to be offended when someone stares a 1/2 second longer than they should.

Why?

Because If you as an adult can not answer these questions then what hope does your kid have? Do you really think pouting, and posting a willie wonka youtube video will help a halvie/mixed kid fend off anyone of those people? Do you think he will be able to develop the where with all to come up with a personal philosphy that will allow him to live in a world that demands these answers, and yet some how still maintain his own self worth??? Will he be able to understand the world not only has the right to ask those questions, I will also favor or protect those who do? What does that mean for this kid, if the parents can not help him or her?

THAT My Self righteous Douche bag is what I mean by Selfish! I don't know one mixed person that I have ever spoken with who has had any preparation to deal with the demands the world will make on them. Why? Because again interracial couple seldom think of anyone other than themselves, and even then not far enough down the road to help themselves and not have their marriages self destruct let alone give their kids all they need to deal with the world they will have to live in.

Me calling interracial couples selfish is a goad or test to see how they will respond. are they mature enough to meet a challenge or will they run from it or simply lash back? To meet the challenge is to not only turn the other cheek but it is also to phrase a response that allows one to not only preserve the racial identity of the person bring the question, but to reaffirm their choice and their children racial status. This is the only type of person ready for a interracial marriage.

I even demonstrated this when in this thread I myself was in an interracial relationship when I said (I gots me a white woman). Being call selfish means nothing, when you know you are prepared to deal with the challenges you will face together. What's more if a interracial couple is not prepared to deal with all comers in a respectful way no matter how harshly they may come, then they absolutely do not need to be married/they are married for absolutely the wrong reasons, and time will indeed flush them out. Unfortunately in most cases it would seem that this will not happen before they have kids. Kids ill prepared to deal with the world to come. Which again points back to a selfish parent!

So yeah, just keep defending the right of people to not give two thoughts about the future nor the challenges their kids may face, just because it 'feels' like the right thing to do. Because no one should ever question anyone about anything anyone ever does so long as no one gets hurt... well hurt meaning (apparently) blood or broken bones.