(February 25, 2016 at 3:02 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Objective morality has been discussed many times on these forums, and many times by me. A lot of times I feel like I have a hard time trying to explain objective morality or why objective morality makes sense to me, which in turn helps make the existence of a god make sense to me. It isn't the only reason by far, but it is part of it.
I saw this short video today and thought Kreeft summed up all my thoughts in a way that I never felt I could accurately do.
I don't agree with the part where he says people "think they are atheists", but as for his explanation of morality, I couldn't have put it better myself.
https://www.prageru.com/courses/religion...-evil-come
Whether you agree or not, it's still an interesting issue to discuss.
Hey CL,
I won't argue about whether or not humans need objective morality. The argument could be made that maybe we do. But where you lose me is when you try to say that god provides this objectivity.
You are catholic, so when you say god, I feel safe in assuming you mean the Christen god. I find this problematic on 2 points.
1. It means objective morality only for Christians. Which defeats the whole purpose. We can’t have a moral standard that excludes the vast majority of people on this planet and call it objective.
2. Even within Christianity, there has not been a consensus of what is and is not moral. Throughout history, the Church has been like a chameleon about what it considers sin. Within the Bible, moral standards are quite arbitrary. The idea that some Christians do not hold to sola scriptura only erodes the claim that god provides objectivity even further.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.