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Bernie Sanders - Hope?
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RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope?
(March 16, 2016 at 3:09 am)Heat Wrote:
(March 16, 2016 at 2:55 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It's not hopeless, but it's pretty far fetched.

I think it's important to squash all of these #BernieOrBust idiots. As Bill Maher says, eat the fucking chicken even if you ordered the fish.

Staying home because it's not Bernie helps us have a President Trump.

Hillary needs to nominate Elizabeth Warren to squash the Wall Street stuff and also get some of the Berners back on board. Then Bernie needs to stump for Hillary, and keep his base excited.
She's not going to nominate someone to help her bring down Wall Street. She is funded by wall street. If you really think she's going to be tougher, or even tough at all in comparison to Bernie Sanders on wall street, you don't know anything about politics. They aren't giving her money for no reason. She just needs to pretend she's siding with Bernie on the issue of corruption in politics, so that she doesn't lose votes.

I never said she'd be tougher on Wall Street. I don't think any candidate, including Bernie, could do anything to Wall Street with the current congressional/political system. I am not a Hillary fan by any means. I'm a Bernie Sanders supporter, but I am also a realist. I may not like Hillary, but I don't think she'll make things worse---and I think every single one of the asshats on the other side will make things way worse. Elizabeth Warren is the person not to make Hillary do anything. She's the person that is exciting, when there is literally nothing exciting about Hillary herself. Warren will grab some of these #BernieOrBust fans because she's got the same track record. She allows Hillary to go for the moderates while Warren attracts the left-leaners.

Getting a liberal in the White House is imperative. There is a Supreme Court Justice to nominate, and this president will likely nominate two more. You think Trump or Cruz is going to replace RBG and Breyer with moderates? That's why you eat the fucking chicken. Because a generation's worth of Supreme Court decisions is on the line. Contesting Citizen's United so we can approach an only mildly outrageous election cycle in 4 years is on the line. Pouting at home because Bernie didn't win and allowing Donald Trump to become our next president because the left's candidate isn't left enough is ludicrous.

I understand the choice to cast a vote for the candidate you most agree with. I don't understand not having a rational view of what the outcome of that will be. When the Trump/Christie ticket gets into the White House because 10% of the nation wrote in Bernie Sanders, what does that accomplish? Your voice was heard? Nice. Now you can be sued for calling Trump a moron on the internet because Trump executive actioned libel laws into orbit. Now we have three conservative justices where there was just one. Now trade and diplomacy across the world turn to shit because The Donald kicks in doors and expects to be a mogul on everything.

Making a point is one thing. Demonstrating your point to your own detriment is entirely another.
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Messages In This Thread
Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Heat - March 16, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 16, 2016 at 2:55 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Heat - March 16, 2016 at 3:09 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 16, 2016 at 3:39 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 3:35 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Joods - March 16, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 3:51 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Whateverist - March 16, 2016 at 8:27 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 16, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Mr.wizard - March 16, 2016 at 6:08 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Joods - March 16, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Joods - March 16, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 16, 2016 at 4:09 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2016 at 1:00 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by AFTT47 - March 18, 2016 at 2:37 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 18, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Heat - March 18, 2016 at 9:55 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 4:25 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 16, 2016 at 4:52 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2016 at 1:08 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 4:59 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 16, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 6:58 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 16, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Grandizer - March 16, 2016 at 5:23 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Excited Penguin - March 16, 2016 at 5:50 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 16, 2016 at 7:41 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Chad32 - March 16, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Whateverist - March 16, 2016 at 9:07 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 9:14 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Whateverist - March 16, 2016 at 9:48 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 16, 2016 at 9:19 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by I_am_not_mafia - March 16, 2016 at 9:40 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by ReptilianPeon - March 16, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 16, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Brian37 - March 16, 2016 at 7:11 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Chad32 - March 16, 2016 at 9:44 am
Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by KUSA - March 16, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by I_am_not_mafia - March 16, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Brian37 - March 16, 2016 at 9:54 am
Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by KUSA - March 16, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by AFTT47 - March 16, 2016 at 10:09 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by I_am_not_mafia - March 16, 2016 at 11:08 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by I_am_not_mafia - March 16, 2016 at 11:13 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 16, 2016 at 6:27 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 16, 2016 at 11:57 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Chad32 - March 16, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 16, 2016 at 10:18 pm
Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by KUSA - March 16, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Grandizer - March 16, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 16, 2016 at 12:32 pm
Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by KUSA - March 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2016 at 1:14 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 16, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by KUSA - March 16, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 16, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Rev. Rye - March 16, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 17, 2016 at 2:28 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 17, 2016 at 3:22 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 17, 2016 at 3:50 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 17, 2016 at 4:39 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Heat - March 17, 2016 at 10:05 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 18, 2016 at 12:15 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Heat - March 18, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 18, 2016 at 2:10 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Thumpalumpacus - March 18, 2016 at 2:28 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 18, 2016 at 2:34 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 17, 2016 at 11:11 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 18, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Whateverist - March 18, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 18, 2016 at 11:21 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 18, 2016 at 11:28 pm
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Heat - March 19, 2016 at 12:18 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2016 at 12:19 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 19, 2016 at 3:25 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2016 at 12:25 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by Minimalist - March 19, 2016 at 1:08 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2016 at 4:16 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by SteelCurtain - March 19, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Bernie Sanders - Hope? - by I_am_not_mafia - March 19, 2016 at 5:27 am

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