Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Can you accept that it is possible to know right from wrong, without understanding the concept of Good and evil?

No.

Do you have children?

No.

have you spent any time with any toddlers?

Lots.

It goes without saying that a toddler does not understand the concept of sin, evil. As sin and evil are based on God's laws and where one's heart is in relation to a given sin.

Yet they still understand good bad/things they know is ok to do and things they know it is not ok for them to do.

Children grasp the twin concept of good and bad because they have been inculcated to do from the time they were old enough to do so. This is not the situation with Adam and Eve.

My sister has a little girl will be 3 this April, and for example she knows she is not supposed to touch the TV especially with sticky hands. I watched her this weekend and we had Dora on and she likes to try and touch Dora.. While making a complete mess of a Pb&J I went to get her a drink, and when she thought I left and could not see her she stood up looked around and with sticky fingers outstretched she bolted to the TV..

But HOW did the wee girl know not to touch the telly? Because her parents (or some other person) had told her not to do so, had told her that this was a bad thing.

Now with no knowledge of Sin, She knew she was not supposed to touch the TV. Otherwise why wait till the authority figure had left (like Eve) looked around to see if anyone was going to hold her accountable to her actions, then move to do something she knew she was not supposed to do?

There's no scriptural indication that Eve looked around for an authority figure before she gave in to the serpent's blandishments and took the fruit. Your niece looked around because she had been taught/told NOT to touch the television.

If she was completely unaware of right and wrong then why wait till I was gone?

That's precisely the point - she was aware of right and wrong, because the concepts had been taught to her. If no one had ever told her not to touch the telly, she would have done so before you left the room.
The same situation senerio plays out the same way with Eve. She waited till even Adam was not around to fall for her temptation.

She knew it was wrong by the very fact that she waited till she was alone. Ate the forbidden fruit and when what she expected did not happen, she passed it on to Adam.

I think you're being deliberately obtuse - the case of your niece and the case of Eve could not have been more different. The fruit represented the knowledge of good and evil. Without eating the fruit, Eve could have no way of knowing that disobeying God was an evil act. This is definitional, and I (I think) not subject to rational debate.

So again why did God put the tree in the garden? Because again the tree and it's fruit represented choice. God wanted us to chose to either stay or leave. we chose to leave.

Still a mug's game. God could have simply offered the choice, without all that tedious tree-business.

And I would indeed argue Adam and Eve did die that very day as God promised. You assume that our current fallen form was what God created in the garden. I believe we are a hybrid of what God created in the garden and 'monkey man' who lived outside of it. Eitherway it's Obvious 'we' are not what God created as we can no longer be in the presence of God without being 'blinded, burned, consumed' by his Holy presence, and yet in the garden Adam walked with God daily. What God created Died that very day, we are what is left.

Not really germane to my post, but OK. More attempts to show that the Bible doesn't mean what it says.

Boru