(May 3, 2016 at 10:35 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Wryetui Wrote:Besides the poster that came after me, no one really answered anything, well, anything besides unbased mockery which I am getting used to.You're making a category error. The only claim atheists make as atheists is that they don't believe in any God or god. The only claim theists make as theists is that they believe in at least one God or god. An atheist is someone who doesn't believe in God. There are no other 'atheist' claims, not even a claim that there is no God; only that we don't believe there is, we don't hold it to be true that any deities are real. Some atheists might claim that, or assert some versions of God don't exist while remaining agnostic about others; which only goes to show we only have the one claim in common.
Now, I have read this claim "The Earth is thought to have been formed about 4.6 billion years ago by collisions in the giant disc-shaped cloud of material that also formed the Sun. Gravity slowly gathered this gas and dust together into clumps that became asteroids and small early planets called planetesimals. These objects collided repeatedly and gradually got bigger, building up the planets in the Solar System, including the Earth.
The details of how the Earth formed are still being worked out. Scientists study meteorites and the oldest rocks on Earth to understand what happened in these earliest times in the Solar System. They also observe other solar systems in our galaxy, the Milky Way." but you are not better than any theist by just stating it so, if you read this claim without any further information it looks like a beautiful tale. I need, as you, evidence for this claim. What is the evidence behind this?
You said I could read the internet but that is not my point. This is a debate forum and if we would search the internet everytime we have a doubt there would be no forum at all, I want you guys to explain this to me.
You seem to be conceding the entirety of science to us, which is flattering, and a high percentage of scientists ARE atheists compared to the general population, but around half of American scientists are Christian. most of whom have no problem following the evidence wherever it goes. It's not our job, as atheists, to defend science; if you went to a general science forum, you'd find plenty of Christians defending science.
Maybe you're ready for the 'varieties of atheists' talk. I think for this thread you want to take on the 'rational skeptics' or 'scientific skeptics'. Lots of atheists in America fall into that category. We tend to be careful and precise in how we use words when debating, and are known for a tendency to be grammar and spelling Nazis; and to be agnostic atheists (because we're reluctant to make blanket assertions, it comes with the territory).
Hmmm, hmmmm, whoooo, whooooooo, whooooooo.
Here a short list of atheists unsupported blanket assertions.
1) The consciousness is a product of the brain.
2) We got this consciousness thanks to previous generation (evolution of the specie)
3) When we die is all over even the consciousness die.
4) The universe does not need any God.
And so on and on.
Sorry mate but it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.