RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 7, 2016 at 7:43 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2016 at 7:44 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(May 7, 2016 at 5:56 pm)Gemini Wrote:(May 3, 2016 at 4:51 am)Wryetui Wrote: I am starting this post because, so far, no atheist ever showed me evidence for their beliefs (or as you say, "lack of beliefs") and I am curious.It is trivially easy to point out evidence for atheist beliefs (e.g., the evidential argument from evil). I am astonished that you have never encountered such an argument from an atheist before.
You'll learn pretty quickly that they have, in fact, heard many such arguments from us. They simply do not listen.
I would posit that they cannot listen, because their programming is too deeply embedded to allow such a "syntax error - does not compute" to register on the hard drive. They "know" what we think, already, because their social circles and preachers told them, and that's all there is to it. The best part are the anti-science crowd, to whom you can provide mountains of actual evidence, to whom you can demonstrate that their ad-hoc explanations of the physical impossibility of many of the Bible's claims hold no water (lately, we've been discussing Noah's Flood), and you will still have them wave it off as if you had said nothing, let alone demonstrated unequivocally that their propositions were not only false but impossible. Because magic!
And as always, there's the never ending confusion on their part about the difference between being an atheist ("I do not believe your religious claims") and a nihilist ("Vee beleef in nossssing, Lebowsky!")... or they think that acceptance of the scientific method of testing ideas means atheism. And so on. It gets exhausting, pretty quickly, trying to debunk so much bullshit on an endless cycle, even with the same people.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.