RE: Evidence for atheist claims
May 8, 2016 at 11:10 am
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2016 at 11:11 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(May 8, 2016 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote:(May 7, 2016 at 7:43 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: You'll learn pretty quickly that they have, in fact, heard many such arguments from us. They simply do not listen.
I would posit that they cannot listen, because their programming is too deeply embedded to allow such a "syntax error - does not compute" to register on the hard drive. They "know" what we think, already, because their social circles and preachers told them, and that's all there is to it. The best part are the anti-science crowd, to whom you can provide mountains of actual evidence, to whom you can demonstrate that their ad-hoc explanations of the physical impossibility of many of the Bible's claims hold no water (lately, we've been discussing Noah's Flood), and you will still have them wave it off as if you had said nothing, let alone demonstrated unequivocally that their propositions were not only false but impossible. Because magic!
And as always, there's the never ending confusion on their part about the difference between being an atheist ("I do not believe your religious claims") and a nihilist ("Vee beleef in nossssing, Lebowsky!")... or they think that acceptance of the scientific method of testing ideas means atheism. And so on. It gets exhausting, pretty quickly, trying to debunk so much bullshit on an endless cycle, even with the same people.
Here we got more atheists dogmas.
1) As usual all theists according to atheists fall in the same category.
They all follow the bible or some religions.
WRONG.
You can be theist without following any religion.
2) Atheists are experts in science while theists are not.
WRONG.
While most religious theists rely more on the so called holy books than science is also true
that most atheists know next to nothing about science as i already pointed out their dogmas
in this regards (the consciousness is the product of the brain, we got this consciousness thanks to previous generation, when we die is all over and so on).
Didn't I said that the argument between religious people and atheists lead to nowhere?
I have never said either of those things you just attributed to me. "Theist" is defined as "a believer in god(s)", simple as that, just as "atheist" is defined as "is not a believer in god(s)". And I'd estimate that at least one in three of my posts, ever, on the topic of science have mentioned the fact that my wife is a Christian and a scientist, that most of the scientists I've known in my life have been Christians (and a few other religions).
However, your assertions about science/nature are laughable, and in no way scientific. They're what we call "woo woo", and no amount of verbal gymnastics can get around your magical assertions about the nature of the universe. Please stop wasting our time, and do not misquote me, even in paraphrase, again.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.