(May 13, 2016 at 12:50 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 13, 2016 at 5:16 am)Little Rik Wrote: In the NDEs all those recollection of events may be different in situations in which these people went through their NDE but they all experience a mighty presence that they describe as God.
They all understand that reincarnation is real.
They all experience a wonderful place which they regret very much to leave.
They all fear death no more.
In fact they all wait with eagerness to go back in this beautiful place.
None of them saw the devil or hell.
Quote:After an attempted suicide, John Bunyan (1628-1688) was given an extended guided tour of hell containing all the traditional images of fire, brimstone, devils, tormentors, etc.
http://www.near-death.com/science/research/hell.html
So once again you're making up an idealized version of the truth. Your account of NDEs is bogus.
You never change yog, do you?
As usual you make a fool of yourself.
Hell is a state of mind but this state can and will one day have to change because nobody like
to live in such a state.
The only permanent thing is the cosmic mind behind this illusion but let us come to your hell.
Once you leave your dead body (when you die so to speak) you can not possibly end up in an hell in which you suffer physically.
You only have YOU your consciousness.
The old body has been left behind to rot so how can you possibly feel physical pain?
It is your story that is bogus therefore.
In the after life there is no such a thing as a tormentor.
If you done something wrong in your life it is you that may torment yourself and therefore
it is a state of mind.
When you realize how pure and full of love this place is and at the same time you realize how
bad you are you suffer.
This suffering is caused by you not by a tormentor.
However through the reincarnation you can sort out your problems and at the end everything will be fine.
Wrong once again yog.