(May 23, 2016 at 3:59 am)Little Rik Wrote:(May 22, 2016 at 10:54 am)Stimbo Wrote: You could indeed give a list of what you deem to be "atheistic unfounded claims", . . . . .
Here we go Mister.
1) The consciousness is a product of the brain.
2) We evolved what we are because of the evolution of the species.
3) When we die is all over.
4) Feelings (sight, smell, hearing.....and so on) are only physical senses.
5) There is progress in this universe.
and....blah blah blahhhhhhhh......
So who talk bullshit Mister?
First, as has been noted previously, there is support for these claims, so you're making them out to be unfounded is stretching the truth. More to the point, in past you've referred to these as "atheist dogmas." By your own admission, a dogma is a belief unsupported by evidence. Regardless of what you think of the relative strength of the evidence, by your own definition they do not count as dogma. Therefore, your calling them such is another stretching of the truth.
Regardless, you discount the evidence for these propositions primarily because you disagree with the conclusions. You repeatedly trumpet your own worldview and how it can explain things when challenged with evidence for materialist propositions. However the test of whether something is evidence or not does not lie in whether there is a competing worldview or hypothesis whose advocates believe does a better job explaining the evidence, there will always be such. Your disagreeing with the conclusions of materialism doesn't make the evidence for those conclusions any the less evidence as evidence for your disagreeing with the inferences drawn.
Ultimately, worldviews or hypotheses have to be judged not in some absurd 'winner takes all' contest of who can spin the most consistent and compelling tale, but on a comparison of how the evidence for each worldview or hypothesis stacks up in comparison to each other. Such a judgement doesn't come from adversarial nay-saying, but from a holistic and charitable examination of the evidence for each.
The materialist paradigm is not without its gaps and flaws, but as a whole, the materialist worldview is well evidenced with entries coming from many fields, from philosophy to quantum mechanics. What evidence have you proffered for your worldview? Nothing but a bunch of analogies, bare assertions, a questionable interpretation of NDEs, your 'feelies' about your meditation and your intuitions about it, the yogic tradition, and various bits of tantric lore. If you've got something else to add to the pile, NOW is the time to introduce it. But I've been listening to you a long time and I think it boils down to that.
Given the relative strengths of the evidence presented for each worldview as a whole, the notion that "Yoga" stands up to materialism as a viable alternate hypothesis must surely be regarded as yet another stretching of the truth.