RE: Could this explian what Dark matter and Dark energy is?
June 10, 2016 at 11:12 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2016 at 11:47 pm by Blueyedlion.)
(June 10, 2016 at 9:35 pm)madog Wrote: He isn't the only one, maybe one of the latest?
Who else are you referring to?
Quote:But be clear, for all the spiritual talk of the scientist, if and when neutrino's are detected it will not help the ""God" cause in the least as they will be natural occurrences
I would say, that identifying god as other then natural states, would be to presume the significance of states that appear as unnatural are then evidence of god. But that reasoning is illogical. Because what ever the cosmos births into your personal experience of view, it can only ever be a from of what is natural. What ever the universe is in form, is a symptom of the universe, as the universe. You simply can't have the supernatural entangled in the natural because as soon as you integrate a supernatural property into a natural environment, it then must become natural. As soon as a thing is connected to another, it is then apart of it. There is no supernatural.
So this whole god of the gaps argument from an atheist perspective really doesn't serve any value of thinking, because if we want to talk about any reality of there being a god, we need to do so as a property that we already identify as properties of this cosmos. So when you talk about god of the gaps, there actually are no gaps because it's already of god. You're looking for supernatural states that never existed in the first place, but only states that were at a time unfamiliar, are now familiar and understood.
To present you with a perspective of how what we consider to be natural, may very well be a distorted view of what is truly the universe, what is truly natural. Imagine you are a hamster in a ball - this is your world, here are your parameters within the ball, but go explore the room because you can never feel the carpet, you can never touch the floor, you cannot tell the texture of the wall because you are in your world. Much like the human experience you are put in the ball of your limited senses, and here are your parameters. These limiting parameters shapes what you believe in, and when you design a shape in your belief system it then changes what you perceive in your reality. So your belief system does very much create the reality you experience around you. If you were to break beyond these parameters you would no longer be a hamster, you would no longer be a human.
So you may then ask, where does all of this come from because you’re stuck in the ball but why is there still a room and a rug and a wall. This is designed in my opinion by mass need, mass consciousness as well as mass fear. The way i see it, all energy is created by thought and emotion, it creates and it moves only as it is needed. So it is driven by what the human, the hamster, believes to be his own personal experience when it is not, it is driven by the combination of all thought of all living entities on the planet - that’s what creates reality. What you know is all an illusions but what you experience has truth. So the hamster, the human, bases what they know to be the truth to shape the belief to shape the reality, it provides inconsistencies.