(August 14, 2016 at 11:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:My theological answer is a "self expression" by the extant God but the scientific answer "quantum fluctuation" works just as well. But neither fully answers "how"?(August 14, 2016 at 11:41 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Excellent, I'll refer to that infinite singularity as the Infinite Unified State (or substance), the IUS. All material and forces are as one, occupying all space forever as a field of matter in equilibrium.
But before we unfold the infinite universes from this IUS, I'd like to point out that this is not a new scientific idea (prima materia) nor a new theological idea (Vishnu, the preserver is described having a body that is an infinite ocean, God in the bible described as an all consuming fire), nor a new philosophical idea as embodied by the "Chaos" of the Greeks.
The IUS is inherently "formless" as the is no external membrane or space beyond to define a form. Pure Being.
The question now is not "how do we get something from nothing" but "how do we get a 'nothing' vacuum space and ordered atomic creation in the midst of all this overwhelming "substantiveness"?
The classical answer is the expansion of space-time. What is your answer?
My answer comes from quantizing the infinite spacial relationships the IUS has with it's own substance, into finite representation. This is not word salad, this is the discrete meaning of "quantum": the minimum single action or measurement of an infinite.
The substance of the IUS exists in 3 equal relationships: All around itself equally in all directions, at the center of itself everywhere and as a field in tension equilibrium. This quantizes into a sphere, a point of real substance (not a place holder point) in the center of the sphere, and a tetrahedron (minimum geometric tensor of 3d space) between them.
If a God being expressed itself, those are the only spatial relationships to be expressed..... if the IUS just up and one day quantum fluctuated, those are the only spacial relationships to be expressed.
Follow so far?
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
I knew the rules but the rules did not know me, guaranteed." - Eddie Vedder